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saladin 03-06-2006 04:44 PM

257 roberts
 
i'm considering something in .25 cal , and thought the old roberts might be an interesting toy to play with. i want something for pigs, goats etc.

my questions are two fold - 1) who chambers for this round ( i know ruger do in a timber M77, but not aware of any others ) and 2) i want some info from anyone who's had a bit of experience with this round.

i don't want a 257 weatherby, but would the 25-06 be a better bet?

biscuit jake 03-06-2006 05:11 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
My work buddy loaned his 257 Ruger to his wife for deer hunting. He never got it back.

James B 03-06-2006 05:31 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
Its a real Gem. I had one of the Ruger all weather rifles in that caliber. I also had a 700 Remington ADL Synthetic which was a special run in 2001. I also have a 25-06 in the Ruger and the 250-3000 in the Savage lever action and in the 700 Classic which was the classic run in 1974 I think. As you can tell, I like the 25 caliber. I once had a 257 Weatherby but in real life it was not much of a gain over the 25-06. most loads were only about 100 fps difference when you stayed within the pressure limits.

The best bet may be the 25-06 and if you want a little more zip, its a cheap conversion to go to the 25-06 Ackely Improved. Rosce has done these and comes up equal to the Weatherby with more availabe brass and such. The AI conversion will give you better brass life with little or no trimming and less barrel erosion than the Weatherby. I am thinking of doing this conversion on my Ruger as we speak. The 25 WSSM is another thought. Good luck. Caution... The quarter bores can be addictive.

My wife latched onto the 250 Remington classic for her deer rifle. It works great on our big bodied Mule deer. I load the 100 Grain Nosler Ballistic tip for her. The WW 100 grain Silver tips work great as well. Thats the old style Silver-tips.

Rebel Hog 03-06-2006 05:40 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
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48thguns 03-06-2006 05:59 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
The Roberts is a wonderful deer cartridge and the Ackley is even better. This is a true classic caliber and a joy to shoot. A 7X57 necked down to 25 caliber......totally awesome. Regards, Rick.

North Texan 03-06-2006 11:43 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
I took my 25-06 to the range yesterday and had a great outing with it. It's a great cartridge, with a flat trajectory and low recoil.

The .257 is regaining a little popularity, but it had faded enough that the .25-06 is probably found in a few more offerings.

adamsdad 03-07-2006 07:04 AM

RE: 257 roberts
 
I owned both calibers at one point and enjoyed them both. I favor the .25-06 over the 257 Roberts though. It is much easier to find ammo and it is usually a little cheaper. I shot deer with both and in my small unscientific sampling the .25-06 seemed to produce better results. Either way you won't go wrong.

bugsNbows 03-07-2006 02:09 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
A Tikka T-3 Lite in 25/06 would be a real keeper. I know cause I recently purchased one. Lots of ammo choices too.

biscuit jake 03-07-2006 04:58 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
Now James, if you could only have one .25 rifle, which would it be? (Promise you can keep them all, though!)

Duckbutter48 03-07-2006 05:01 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
Hey would the Ackely 25-06 need the longer barrel like the 257wthby to really shine. Ive seen alot of Ackely stuff in books and on reloading dies but never really paid a whole lot of attention to what the big difference is other than the shoulder angle(I think). I just sold my 25-06 Encore barrel and need another 25 cal gun myself I was thinking about the 257wthby but didnt want the 26" barrel or the 25Wssm even the 257Roberts would be neatbut whats the biggest difference between a 25-06 and the Ackely version.

North Texan 03-07-2006 05:09 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
The .25-06 AI isn't much different than the 257 weatherby. Both need a 26" barrel realize their potential. My 25-06 has a 24" barrel, and I certainly wouldn't want it any shorter.

Dan in Alaska 03-08-2006 04:13 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
I had a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle chambered in .257 Roberts. It shot like a dream, but it was a short action. To get the accuracy, I usually had to seat the bullets out far enough that they would no longer fit in the box magazine. The rifle favored the lighter bullet weights. It shot the 85 - 100 grainers very well, but the accuracy of the 115-120 bullets often left something to be desired. My best loads used IMR 4350 and Nosler 85 and 100 grain Balistic Tips. The 100 grain Hornady spire points also shot really well.

I sold the rifle before moving to Alaska. In hindsight, that probably wasn't a great move. I will have a heck of time finding another one.

Superpig 03-09-2006 12:37 PM

RE: 257 roberts
 
If you enjoy handloading the 257 Roberts is a fine caliber. If you don't go with the 25-06. I own both and reach for the 257 more than any other in my arsenal. I can reach an honest 2926 fps with Hornady 117 gr. BTSP out of my Remington 700 with a 22" barrel. With the same bullet I reach 3088 fps with the 25-06. It also has a 22" barrel.

Like stated above if you handload give the Roberts a try. If not stick to the 25-06. One thing to note. My Roberts was a special run of the Remington 700 Stainless Classic. It has a long action. The OAL I use to reach good accuracy is too long for a short actions box magazine. So, I guess if you need a long action for the Roberts why not just buy a 25-06?


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