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judgemint 11-08-2005 08:47 PM

winchester model 70 weatherby
 
A guy at work has a winchester 70 synthetic stainless chambered in 300 weatherby. he says it is a stock gun. has anyone else heard of win chamb this cal? It has a nikon scope. He will sell it for 500$ I am in the market for a rifle for hunting mainly deer. I may decide to go elk hunting. I was thinking on getting a 270 wsm, Being a greenhorn.. is this gun to big?

stubblejumper 11-08-2005 08:59 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
Be aware that weathery factory loads are verylimited in selection and are quite pricy as well.

bigbulls 11-08-2005 09:25 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
Yes they chambered the 300 WBY, and still do, but like stubble said the ammo is on the expensive side and not exactly found on every shelf in every store.

However if that doesn't bother you and the rifle is in good shape then I would snatch it up real quick. You didn't specifically say which model it is but $500 for the rifle and scope sounds like an excelent purchase.

judgemint 11-08-2005 09:42 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
It is a model 70


handloader1 11-08-2005 11:01 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
Good rifle, good caliber, and good price. According to "Ammo and Billistics II" one can purchase 21 different loads from various manufactors. In "Cabela's Shooting 2005" catalog the prices range from $27.99 to $49.99. Go for it!! Good luck.

Sharp Shooter 11-09-2005 06:38 AM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
It isn't too hard at all to find 300wby ammo. But the other weatherby caliber bullets are hard to find. I myself would go with a 7mm.

GRIZZLYMAN 11-09-2005 11:53 AM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
I guess pricey is one way to describe 300 Wby ammo. I pay $15 bucks for Federal 30-06 (not premiums) and $10 more for 300 Wby in Federal Premium. I've found that the Federal Premium (or what ever they are calling it now) in 300Wby outshoots the more expensive proprietary loads that Norma loads for the Weatherby brand.

stubblejumper 11-09-2005 12:40 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 

I've found that the Federal Premium (or what ever they are calling it now) in 300Wby outshoots the more expensive proprietary loads that Norma loads for the Weatherby brand.
The federal and remington 300 wby loads also produce much less velocity than the weatherby loads.They barely edge out some 300winmag loads.



RedAllison 11-09-2005 12:52 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
Stubbs is right, the "cheap" stuff you find for Weatherbys IMHO really aren't worth it. Weatherbys are really in their element when they are cranked up and the coal is poured too them. The 300Wby IS more powerful than the 300Winnie, not by a huge margin but a couple hundred fps IS worth the price of admission IMHO. The 300Wby is THE original supermag 30 and while it might not seem as high and mighty as it once did in the days before the RUMs, the commercialization of the 30/378 or the Lazzeroni's it never the less offers more too the shooter looking for something a bit more than the normal 308/30-06 without having to take up reloading or building custom guns in the name of having "something different".

The Federal and Remington loads are abysmal if you ask me. Sure they might shoot great (as far as a paper group is concerned) but I think you shoot something like a 300Wby because you want to step out there and touch em from afar. The only "commercial offerings" that I have seen that are supercharged and puts the 300Wby in it's proper light are those from Wby and Norma of course, Conelly Precision and the new Nosler Custom ammo. Lastweek I carried my 300Wby out and sighted it in with some 150 Wby ammo and then switched over too a new box of 150Accubonds from Nosler Custom (the box says 3475fps) and they recoil like thunder but shot GREAT!!! (Hopefully I will get to "melt" one in MO Saturday morning with this very combo.)

Race cars cost more to feed and maintain for sure, otherwise we would ALL be driving Ferrari's too work. But when they are properly maintained and "hittin on all 8" they sure are a blast to handle and can only then begin to show you what they really have! ;)
RA

TomFromTheShade 11-09-2005 11:20 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
For $500 I'm tempted to buy the friggin' gun myself. For a well built rifle, and a decent scope, you aren't going to go wrong for $500. With the money you save over buying a new rifle you can get some reloading equipment and make that gun breathe fire!

Highpower 11-10-2005 06:37 AM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
I'm loading the Sierra 165 HPBT Gameking for the 300 Weatherby. I'm stoking it with 4831, one grain over max(no signs of pressure), with a magnum primer. The accuracy is terrific out to 300 yards and the performance is awesome. For $500, I'd be all over that deal.

DannyD 11-10-2005 09:27 AM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
I shot a 300 Wby Mag this past weekend for the first time. Put 8 shots through it. I can tell you for me, the only fun was having the guys sitting next to me asking "what the heck was that" when it went off.
It really kicked pretty hard. I like to shoot my guns, practice a lot with them. But after 8 shots I wanted no more. I can shoot my 270 all day, but this was something way different in my opinion.



Superpig 11-10-2005 01:37 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
Being a Greenhorn I would stay away from the 300 Wby. The recoil is too much for most people and even some seasoned shooters develop a flinch with the amount of recoil it can produce. The price of $500 is a good price. As everyone has stated the Remington, Hornady, & Federal factory loads are anemic compared to the Weatherby brand ammo loaded by Norma. There is a reason for this. The Weatherby ammo is designed around Weatherby rifles. Any Weatherby rifle in a Weatherby caliber has a free bored rifle throat and develops less pressure than a rifle with a standard throat such as the Winchester. American ammo is loaded to be safe in a Weatherby or any other brand of rifle chambered for the 300 Wby. My uncle owned a Model 70 XTR (the old post 64 action) that showed signs of excessive pressure using Weatherby brand ammo loaded with 180 gr. partitions. He switched to the Federal Premium loading and there were no signs of excessive pressure. He also had the same rifle in 270 Wby & using Weatherby ammo with 130 gr. Spire Points this rifle showed no signs of pressure. American factory ammo is loaded about 100 fps slower than the Weatherby ammo. There isn't a critter alive that will know or feel the difference if you put a bullet in the kill zone. You should ask your friend to go out with you and let you fire the rifle. If you can handle the recoil buy it and if not look to the 270 WSM or some other caliber with less recoil.

338 11-11-2005 05:28 AM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
I have 1 with a wood stock and it shoots well .. I also hand load so ammo is cheap ..

Solitary Man 11-11-2005 03:58 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 

ORIGINAL: DannyD

I shot a 300 Wby Mag this past weekend for the first time. Put 8 shots through it.........I can shoot my 270 all day, but this was something way different in my opinion.
You're right, it is in another league.That's why I wear a Past recoilshoulder pad when Ishoot my .300 Wby from the bench.As a matter of fact, I usually wear it no matter what I'm shooting. It just makes shooting from the bench a more pleasurable activity.

As to the original poster, if the gun (without scope) doesn't weigh at least 7.5 to 8 pounds, I think I'd pass on it. You want a little heft in a rifle chambered for something like the .300 Wby.

I once shot a friend's synthetic stockedWinchester Model 70 .30-06 and it was absolutely the most painful rifle I've ever had the misfortune of shooting. I don't know if it was the stock design, the light weight or what, but it would absolutely nail you every time you pulled the trigger. My .300 Wby Sako is an absolute *****cat compared to that thing.

Pawildman 11-13-2005 12:49 PM

RE: winchester model 70 weatherby
 
Quit bein' so tight--- loosen up those purse strings, let the moths escape, grab some of that mouldy green stuff, go buy the gun, and have some fun!!! That seems to be a VERY reasonable price for a WIN-WAM in good shape.


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