Good long-range deer calibers.
#141
Join Date: Nov 2005
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RE: Good long-range deer calibers.
regarding post 114; IT IS illegal to take or attempt to take any wildlife from or across a public roadway; from Missouri wildlife code chapter 7, 3 csr 10-7.405 general provisions, paragraph 3. that said, your cousins shot was also unethical to a very high degree(imho). you seem to be a very intelligent young man, and the fact that you have researched your choice of rifle and caliber speaks well of you. but, don't be fooled by anectdotal evidence. there are far to many variables in one instance to draw any conclusions.
#142
RE: Good long-range deer calibers.
What are some scopes with lengthy eye-relief that aren't super expensive? I could see everything out of the scope, but then when I got a Limbsaver Slip-On and now I ahve to push waay forward so I can see good out of it. It's okay when I'm hunting, I take it off, but I want a better scope anyways.
#143
Join Date: Feb 2005
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RE: Good long-range deer calibers.
Well, It's hard to beat a 30-06 for. Use the '06 for an ocasional elk and moose hunt too. If you plan to hunt elk alot, choose a .300 win mag or 7 rem mag. If deer is you main thing with the occasional hog or brown bear thrown in, the '06 is great. It is reliable, cheap and is the most available ammo out therre. If you go out to podunkville to you deer lease and youleave your ammo at home, you can usually find '06 at any small town sporting goods store or even some filling stations and pawn shops. It is about 30-40% cheaper than simialar magnums
And forget the Benelli. If you pop is gonna spend 1500 bucks on a rifle for you, get a savage 110 or winchester model 70, then spend the other 1000 bucks on a good scope.
good luck
okcmco
And forget the Benelli. If you pop is gonna spend 1500 bucks on a rifle for you, get a savage 110 or winchester model 70, then spend the other 1000 bucks on a good scope.
good luck
okcmco
#145
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Baileysville, WV
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RE: Good long-range deer calibers.
Tyke I think the Aetec is pretty much the king of eye relief as far as scopes go. They did make some changes this year though so Im not sure how much it is now. Some place like Natchez may have some of the older models still in stock. They were priced well and were very good scopes. They were/are less than 200 bucks.Natchez has several and they are on sale. You could make a post and ask about them, they generally get very good reviews on here.
http://www.natchezss.com/category.cfm?contentID=productList&category=20 &brand=SN&mfgGroup=472&subgroup=1934&a mp;CFID=1441241&CFTOKEN=88862959
http://www.natchezss.com/category.cfm?contentID=productList&category=20 &brand=SN&mfgGroup=472&subgroup=1934&a mp;CFID=1441241&CFTOKEN=88862959
#149
RE: Good long-range deer calibers.
Remington 7mm
Shooting Times Westerner
Gun writer Layne Simpson created the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner cartridge in 1989 and named it for his employer, Shooting Times Magazine. The Westerner moniker comes from its expected use as a long-range cartridge, as opposed to the less popular 7mm Shooting Times Easterner based on the .307 Winchester cartridge.
The 7mm STW uses a parent case of the 8mm Remington Magnum, which, of course, is necked down to 7mm and its case taper straightened slightly. The new round has become very popular among long-range deer hunters.
“We kept watching the sales of 8mm Remington Magnum brass climb up and up,” said a Remington ammo-development specialist. “We knew from gun sales that that it wasn’t being used in rifles chambered for that caliber. and it became apparent that the popularity of the 7mm STW was just too big to ignore any longer.” Once these trends were clear, Remington legitimized the popular then-wildcat round.
Initial factory loads feature a 140-grain bullet with an advertised muzzle velocity of 3,325 fps. I found that my rifle’s 25.5-inch barrel actually exceeded that, averaging 3,359 fps. Handloads should be able to boost this velocity by a considerable margin. Some reports have 140-grain bullets running over 3,500 fpsWe withhold judgment about whether those speeds are achievable with mainstream loads.
Based on our experience with the round, we think that the 160-grain bullet will be more practical for this cartridge. Indeed, the Barnes #1 Reloading Manual shows several loads that exceed 3,300 fps using this bullet. Also, Remington will likely bring out more factory loads soon. With the current factory loads, the 7mm Westerner has an 11-percent energy gain over the 7mm Remington Magnum and a 7.1-percent gain over the 7mm Weatherby Magnum at 400 yards.
Shooting Times Westerner
Gun writer Layne Simpson created the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner cartridge in 1989 and named it for his employer, Shooting Times Magazine. The Westerner moniker comes from its expected use as a long-range cartridge, as opposed to the less popular 7mm Shooting Times Easterner based on the .307 Winchester cartridge.
The 7mm STW uses a parent case of the 8mm Remington Magnum, which, of course, is necked down to 7mm and its case taper straightened slightly. The new round has become very popular among long-range deer hunters.
“We kept watching the sales of 8mm Remington Magnum brass climb up and up,” said a Remington ammo-development specialist. “We knew from gun sales that that it wasn’t being used in rifles chambered for that caliber. and it became apparent that the popularity of the 7mm STW was just too big to ignore any longer.” Once these trends were clear, Remington legitimized the popular then-wildcat round.
Initial factory loads feature a 140-grain bullet with an advertised muzzle velocity of 3,325 fps. I found that my rifle’s 25.5-inch barrel actually exceeded that, averaging 3,359 fps. Handloads should be able to boost this velocity by a considerable margin. Some reports have 140-grain bullets running over 3,500 fpsWe withhold judgment about whether those speeds are achievable with mainstream loads.
Based on our experience with the round, we think that the 160-grain bullet will be more practical for this cartridge. Indeed, the Barnes #1 Reloading Manual shows several loads that exceed 3,300 fps using this bullet. Also, Remington will likely bring out more factory loads soon. With the current factory loads, the 7mm Westerner has an 11-percent energy gain over the 7mm Remington Magnum and a 7.1-percent gain over the 7mm Weatherby Magnum at 400 yards.