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Chuck7 10-17-2005 03:01 PM

Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Just want your opinion,



http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3170021&cat=418421&t ype=21&dept=4125&path=0%3A4125%3A4155%3A17 0080%3A170083%3A418421

bigcountry 10-17-2005 03:10 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Sure, 7600's are decent guns. But that one sounds a little overpriced to me.

Chuck7 10-17-2005 03:24 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Thanks Big Country,
I know ya know your stuff and I highly regard your opinions.
Chuck


spencer0071 10-17-2005 03:39 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
I have hunted deer (and the occasional woodchuck)with this rifle for the past 15 years. Nothing wrong with with the rifle at all. The7600 is not near as popular as bolt actions or even single shoot rifles. I shoot hand loaded balistic tips (130 grain) and produce good size groups at 100 yards. Check the following linksto compareprices.

www.gunbroker.com

www.gunsamerica.com

Spence

James B 10-17-2005 06:30 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
If thats a Walnut stock then you won't beat that price by much if any.

Jackson Bowner 10-17-2005 07:40 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
This spring I bought a Browning Gold NWTF 10 ga. from Wallyworld. I looked all over including online auction sites like gunbroker.com as well as all the sporting goods stores in Michigan. Walmart was $50 cheaper than the next lowest price I could find. Someone even told me that our local sporting goods store occasionally buys from them for resale when they are in a pinch for inventory. I ordered the gun from walmart.com and it was delivered to our local store. No problems.

Chuck7 10-17-2005 07:56 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Agreed Wally is hard to beat.


bigcountry 10-17-2005 08:15 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
James may be right. I was pricing 7600 synthetics around here for 360 on sale. But the walnut does go for a little more.

tykempster 10-18-2005 06:50 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
At Basspro they told me not to get guns from Walmart because they use second hand wood and metal. Is this true or were they blowing smoke?

renfrowridge 10-18-2005 07:39 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
There is only one think wrong with buying at wally world if something is broke or wrong they the gun you must return it the the menufacture wally will not take it back or trade it

bigcountry 10-18-2005 08:01 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 

ORIGINAL: tykempster

At Basspro they told me not to get guns from Walmart because they use second hand wood and metal. Is this true or were they blowing smoke?
man, just do a search on walmart, you will have hours and hour of beating a dead horse reading pleasure.

Chuck7 10-18-2005 08:44 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Blowing smoke I wouldn't call Wanut stock and Rosewood pistol grip second hand wood.LOL

Chuck7 10-18-2005 08:46 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Chuck...I guess it all depends. If it's within 24 hours our man will take it back. They do have a sign that says they won't ..but they will at my store.;)

eldeguello 10-18-2005 09:57 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 

ORIGINAL: tykempster

At Basspro they told me not to get guns from Walmart because they use second hand wood and metal. Is this true or were they blowing smoke?
Totally UNTRUE!! NO manufacturer these days could afford to take the chance of selling poor-quality items due to the dangers of being sued! Walmart guns are just like those sold by any other retailer - the folks at BassPro had better watch what they say, as they can be sued for false statements also!

lovethebigguns 10-18-2005 12:52 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
I have to agree, I don't think companys like Rem and Win. can afford to run 2nd hand guns specially for Wallyworld. If it's junk, nobody is going to care where it came from, they are just going to remember what kind of gun it is and they won't buy another one. I don't think they'd take that kind of risk. They are cheaper simply because of buying in bulk. (At least that's myopinion, I'm no sales guy)

I don't have a problem withit, but I have yet to buy one from there.
If I buy a gun from Wallyworld, nobody is really going benefit. That companyis so freakin big no one will even notice I bought one. BUT at the local gun store where I live, they will benefit from me buying one gun there. I think that if we keep buying from Wallyworld then eventually the local gun shops will be a thing of the past and then where will we go for personal service? Also have you tried to buy some premium ammo or reloading supplies from Wallyworld? They don't carry anything like that and I don't have a Gander or Cabela's or Bass Pro even close to me, so I'll keep buying from the little local gun store to keep him around.

But I won't kid myself, if I can save $100 on a gun at Wal-Mart, it would be hard to pass that up!

RedAllison 10-18-2005 03:20 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
The whole "Wally world/second hand guns" crap was started back in the late 80s when Remington first came up with the "Express" series of shotguns for Walmart exclusively. They weren't any different metal wise and the stocks were plain ol cheap wood and they were cheaply parkerized vs an expensive camo dip or other quality flat finish method, but not seconds just not prime Walnut. Remington would build the runs of guns after they had already tooled up and built a normal cycle of guns for everyone else. The guns might've "felt" a lil looser and made a lil more noise when you cycled em. But they weren't any weaker or anything like that. That only lasted about 1 MAYBE 2 seasons. They were so much cheaper than the regular WingMaster and SPS versions that dealers soon cried foul and demanded the same guns for price competitiveness. Remington conceded and started building them for ALL their customers.

That was the last time they "purposefully built" anything that was cheaper for a particular customer. If you were Wallyworld and could write a check for a 50,000 special guns then any gun maker around would likewise oblige you with your own type or grade. I know Ruger built a special series of rifles for the large distributor "Big Rock" whereby they offered 270,30/06 and 300Mags in target gray metal with a gray laminated stock. That wasn't something offered in the regular catalog. We sold a couple of them as we were customers of Big Rock.

But for BPS to make that claim against Wallyworld? LMAO that's like Hyundai accusing Kia of being cheap car makers!!! :D
RA

Silver_Wolf 10-18-2005 03:56 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 

ORIGINAL: tykempster

At Basspro they told me not to get guns from Walmart because they use second hand wood and metal. Is this true or were they blowing smoke?
Sounds like smoke to me. Wally World gets there lower prices by volume buying. Its pure economics. If I buy one widget from Mr smith he might charge me $0.25, but if I buy 2000 he might charge me $0.20, how much do you think he will charge me if I buy 20,000 of them? Walmart is a VOLUME based retailer. Just remember your paying for service also. So dont expect to get the scope rings and scope mounted for free as you might in a small locally owned shop. But this debate of Wally vs Local is a whole other topic in itself. lol.


J Bolt 7mm 10-18-2005 09:45 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
75% of the shoppers at Walmart are females. In order to increase the amount of males spending money at Walmart they lower the prices of certain products that men buy. Guns are one of those items. So when a male goes into Walmart and purchases a firearm at cost they also purchase ammo, doritos, soda, and a DVD player.Walmart makes its $. Economics and marketing at its finest. Sad to say its a business world where the almighty dollar is King.

Doe Dumper 10-18-2005 11:13 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
I am lucky on this as my buddy has a gun shop and will usually beat Wally's prices on everything for me. Ol drinking buds can come in pretty handy...lol.

Portage 10-19-2005 06:27 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Here in Maine, NIB 7600s run between $525 and $550 for the wood stocked version.

bigcountry 10-19-2005 07:47 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Portage, you need to start learning to shop the internet and find a FFL guy that won't charge you an arm and a leg.

Portage 10-19-2005 08:55 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
I think I can shop the net pretty well.

Two (out of the two)local shops will not transfer internet sales if they can also purchase said firearm. For example, they would not do a 7600 in 30-06 but would in 35 Rem. I haven't figured that one out at all. And no, I don't spend anywhere near the $$ I used to at either shop.

Paul L Mohr 10-19-2005 10:53 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
If what bass pro told you is true then they are selling the same "second hand" guns since they are a large chain store that buys in volume. Sort of cutting thier own throat on that one. This is usually something you hear from small guns shop trying to defend thier higher prices.

I used to own a pump remington in 30-06. It was the carbine model. Pretty gun and shot well. However is was the hardest recoiling rifle I have every shot in my life. I had a savage 110e in the same caliber that handled recoil much better.

Paul

IL Hunter 10-19-2005 07:07 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
they aren't as accurate as the semi auto remington rifles and they are in the same price range.

Brett/IL 10-19-2005 07:53 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
I traded for a 7600 in 30/06 years ago just for kicks and grins. I shot it for a couple of years on targets and coyotes. No, it was not as accurate as my bolt actions, but it was fun to shoot, and it would put 3 shots in a 3" dot at 100 yds. I kept my shots on 'yotes inside of 200 yds. and it did just fine. I ended up trading it on a 700 BDL. If you want to try something a little out of the "norm" I would say go for it. If you are looking for tack driving accuracy, I would suggest a bolt action.

weezer 10-21-2005 10:28 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
First off Walmart is a retailer, not a manufacturer. Now considering that they are the lagest retailer in the world, would you risk your companys name, ie. Remington and others,by using inferior materials. Walmart sells stuff cheaper because of high volume sales. The morea retailer buys from a manufacturer in terms of volume, the better deal they can get, and in retail those savings can be passed on to customers.

eldeguello 10-22-2005 08:01 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 

ORIGINAL: IL Hunter

they aren't as accurate as the semi auto remington rifles and they are in the same price range.
Assuming you are stating that the Remington pump-action rifles are NOT as accurate as the semi-auto versions using the same barrels, receivers, fire-control groups, stocks, etc., I've found it to be just the opposite! Usually the pumps will shoot better than the semi-autos, and have nowhere near thenumber of stoppages due to failure to extract, eject, or feed a new round that plague the 740-7400 series....

bigcountry 10-22-2005 10:29 AM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 

ORIGINAL: IL Hunter

they aren't as accurate as the semi auto remington rifles and they are in the same price range.
Your little secret. Maybe you could tell us all why that is?

Grasshopper13 10-22-2005 07:01 PM

RE: Is this Walmart gun any good fellows??
 
Hey Chuck!

I purchased a used 7600 from a local gun shop in the .260 Remington caliber about 5 years ago and gave 525 tax and all. It was used but in very good shape and in a somewhat lesser known caliber. I chose the 7600 because about 85 - 90 % of the time I carry a remington 870 wingmaster while I'm hunting. I'm an avid rabbit hunter and that's just what I'm comfortable using. I find the 7600 handles much the same and to be honest and can cycle it for a very quick second shot. As far as accuracy goes,I find it to be more than adequate and have taken 6 deer with it and have never missed on whitetail. I also harvested 2 antelope with it in Wyoming back in '03. The quick follow up was especially useful on the buck I took. I caught him with a small group of does and after a sucessful stalk I had managed to get into shooting range. I have trouble guessing yardage and when I got settled, I noticed he had stood up( didn't think I had time to range him)and I thought he was close to 300 yards, so I aimed about 2.5" above his back and shot clean over him! The quick follow up shot allowed me to bust him at a dead run at 238 yards...yeah I way over guessed...he was just a shade over 200 at the first shot. Anyway, the next day I took a doe antelope at 257 yards and it whacked it her too. If you're like me and carry a shotgun most of the year, you'll like the 7600.


Good luck!

Gh


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