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coolbrze0 10-07-2005 06:27 AM

Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
Looking for a new shotgun, primarily an all-around go-to gun kinda like my Remington 870, only an auto-loader. I will primarily use this shotgun for ducks, geese, and deer. I'm thinking camo and a 26" barrel. The 1187 is $700 and the 935is $500, what do you all think? Both shotguns feel good to me. I've shot several 1187s and they are nice. What does everyone think of the 935? Will it handle 2 3/4" shells for squirrel and deer?

coolbrze0 10-07-2005 07:23 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
Upon further research, it appears Remington doesn't make the camo 3.5" chamber 26"er I wanted, just the 28" barell. Is this correct? Also, forgot to mention Iwanted 3.5" capability. Maybe the 935 is the gun for me. Any idea how it will handle 00 buckshot for deer?

SPIKEHORN11 10-07-2005 08:06 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
I know the Remington makes it in a 26 incher cause my grandfather has one. I heard that the Mossberg has trouble firing 2 3/4 in. shells. On the Remington I have shot target loads to 3 1/2 in. goose and turkey loads. I just prefer Remington over Mossberg. Hold one in each had and you can feel the difference.

coolbrze0 10-07-2005 08:15 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 

ORIGINAL: SPIKEHORN11

I know the Remington makes it in a 26 incher cause my grandfather has one. I heard that the Mossberg has trouble firing 2 3/4 in. shells. On the Remington I have shot target loads to 3 1/2 in. goose and turkey loads. I just prefer Remington over Mossberg. Hold one in each had and you can feel the difference.
Yeah - it's about 3/4 lb. JK :)

I don't think Rem. makes an 3.5" camo 1187 w/ 26" barell. If so, could someone please send me a link. I checked Wal-Marts website and they've got great prices, but don't have this exact gun, camo, chamber combo. Neither does Remingtons website... My guess is it isn't made.

SPIKEHORN11 10-07-2005 11:34 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 

ORIGINAL: coolbrze0



Yeah - it's about 3/4 lb. JK :)



Yeah that is true but that is what I like. Feels solid and not like a toy,lol.


il coyote 10-07-2005 10:33 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
it can be hard to find an autoloader that will handle low brass small game loads as well as goose/turkey loads.

I like mossberg b/c of the thumb safety(I shoot left-handed)

fantail 10-08-2005 04:00 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
A buddy of mine has a 935 and it will shoot and eject 1 1/4 ounce 2 3/4 loads. But of coarse it will shoot the lighter loads but won't eject them. You could use it as a single shot for your squirrel hunting if you like the real light loads. I personally would pick the 935 over the 11-87 although I've never owned either.

Rebel Hog 10-08-2005 01:46 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
I would have to go with the 1187!

liquidorange 10-08-2005 07:25 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
i know nothing of the 935 mossberg but i do own there old auto loader the 9200 and i love it. it spits out any como of bird shot to buck shot up to 3inch. i had an 1187 and it hung up on light loads. when i called remington i was told that all 1187-s shoot a little differently. with that kind of explaination i sold it.not bashing remington because i own a bunch of different models. i think i got a lemon. have you looked at the new winchester and benellis?

bigbulls 10-08-2005 08:02 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
OK, you CAN NOT buy an auto loading 3.5 inch capable shotgun and expect it to reliably fire and cycle 2.75" target loads. I don't care who makes the gun and what they claim the one you purchase may not cycle light loads. If you want htis ability then buy a pump.

Gas opersted firearms require a certain ammount of PSI for a certain ammount of time to fully cycle the action. The pressures generated inside the barrel must be signifigant enough to overcome the weight of the moving parts of the action from the gas rings ro the bolt and also overcome the opposing forces from the return springs. A 1 or 1-1/8th ounce target load does not generate the same ammount of pressure for the same duration of time as does a 3.5 inch goose load.

However they should handle loads of 1.25 ounces and heavier. But the 1.25 ounce loads may still give you some trouble every now and then.


AS for the two guns the 1100/ 1187 has been around for a long time and they work reliably if you maintain them properly. Which means replacing the gas rings periodically and keeping the gas system clean. Gas guns don't work well when they get caked up with carbon deposits.

I have yet to go into a 935 so I can't comment on that one.

Worc 10-09-2005 08:02 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
How about neither. Of the two I would I would take the Mossberg.

For the money of the 11-87 you can get either the Franchi 912 or Winchester SX2. Both have better quality and will cycle 1oz field loads. Both are lighter and have better balance. The SX2 is a little easier to clean and the 912 is way easier to clean than the other two. The 912 has an automatic magazine cutoff. The SX2 has a $100 rebate to the end of November. With the $100.00 rebate even the Browning Gold 3 1/2" is close in price.

For all around use a 3" model is a better choice.

coolbrze0 10-10-2005 04:58 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
I'm still not sure. A similar SX2 and Browning Gold Hunter are well over the price of the 935 and 11-87. Would the 935 fire 3" 00 buckshot well or will it jam?

TerryM 10-10-2005 08:53 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
I owned an 11-87 for a while and found it to be unreliable and switched to an 870 SPS-T 3 1/2". My next semi will be either a Beretta or Bennelli. They are both in a totally different league. I know guys who shoot thousands of rounds of trap with Berettas between cleaning. They just keep firing under the worst conditions. I think going cheap in a semi 12 gauge is just a problem waiting to happen. If it costs you a mallard, what the hell. If it costs you a 10 point buck then ?

Worc 10-10-2005 06:54 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
coolbrze, You may be suprised on the price of the Winchester SX2 after the rebate. The Franchi 912 is about the same price. The Beretta Xtrema is designed after the 912.

coolbrze0 10-11-2005 04:59 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 

ORIGINAL: Worc

coolbrze, You may be suprised on the price of the Winchester SX2 after the rebate. The Franchi 912 is about the same price. The Beretta Xtrema is designed after the 912.
Just rechecked - $975 for the 26" barrel, camo, 3.5" 12 ga. So w/ that $100 rebate, it's $875, still a little higher than I was hoping to spend, but I might just do it. Thanks for the heads up!

Worc 10-11-2005 06:29 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
$975.00 sounds a little high to me. I would check around. You should beable to find better deals. Good luck.

UThunter 10-11-2005 11:07 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
I know from experience that the browning gold will cycle light target loads...

700bdl870exp 10-17-2005 09:28 PM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
Most DEFINETLY the Remington 11-87 my grandfather has one and you dont have to aim just put it buy and and shoot and it drops like a bad habit


Brett/IL 10-18-2005 06:19 AM

RE: Remingon 1187 vs. Mossberg 935
 
bigbulls, The statement you made about NO 3 1/2" auto firing light 2 3/4" shells reliably isn't exactly true. From the two he is looking at, I think you are exactly right because of the reason you mention, both are gas operated. I owned a 1187 super mag. and it would cycle 1 1/8 oz. loads about half the time. I now own a Benelli SBE and I have put somewhere around 13,000 rds. through it with NO problems. Of course, I did read the owners manual which states that the first four boxes (100rd.) you put through the gun need to be 1 1/4 oz. or heavier. The day I brought it home I bought 4 boxes of 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz. #4's. I just stood outside and ran them through the gun as fast as I could. I took it in the house, cleaned it, and have never looked back. We, do alot of dove hunting and it will even cycle those God awful Winchester "Super Speed" shells which are less than an oz. Just a little food for thought for anyone looking at 3 1/2" autos.


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