.338 anyone shoot one?
09-17-2005, 04:55 PM
#11
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Colorado
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RE: .338 anyone shoot one?
You may have a point. I started using these Lead Sled devices only recently - after more than30 years of being pounded by all sort of hard kicking rifles. But if you started a 14 year old kid out with the Lead Sled, would they start crying and throw the gun down after one shot prone in the field? I don't know . . . Or would they never develop the little flinch I have fought on and off for decades?
In my case, there is enough adrenalin involved in shooting game under field conditions to make me oblivious to the recoil. And since my brain doesn't know the gun kicks much, from shooting off the bench, it doesn't let me invoke any bad habits at the Moment of Truth. The "learning to shoot under field conditions" can be done with smaller calibers - and I nowonly shoot the bigger rifles off the Lead Sled or at big game. For me, these things work.
In my case, there is enough adrenalin involved in shooting game under field conditions to make me oblivious to the recoil. And since my brain doesn't know the gun kicks much, from shooting off the bench, it doesn't let me invoke any bad habits at the Moment of Truth. The "learning to shoot under field conditions" can be done with smaller calibers - and I nowonly shoot the bigger rifles off the Lead Sled or at big game. For me, these things work.
09-17-2005, 05:09 PM
#12
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rocky Mountains, Colorado
Posts: 1,964
RE: .338 anyone shoot one?
Roskoe,
I believe skills between riflesARE transferable between modern high power (and higher power) riflesand that youCAN sufficiently emulate "practice under field conditions" with a smaller bore --- as you mentioned. The more experience you have, the more you will be able to easily (and soundly)do this IMHO; however, for thesomeone with a first timemagnumto shoot it only off a bench/sled and then head up to the "big time" may result in a "scope eye" for lack of practice and full appreciation for the requisitefundamental "seperation basics"; an old pro on the other hand, probably not.
Good points, and I know where you're coming from.
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Interestingly, so many here seem to think one has to "shoot the wheels off" of a rifle to be any good with it (the old "watch out for a man with only one rifle" crappola). If we're talking high power modern scoped rifles and you are already good with them, then I would posit that it is not the case at all. These modern scoped high powered rifles just don't take that much talent --- now bowhunting --- that takes talent and lots of practice.
I believe skills between riflesARE transferable between modern high power (and higher power) riflesand that youCAN sufficiently emulate "practice under field conditions" with a smaller bore --- as you mentioned. The more experience you have, the more you will be able to easily (and soundly)do this IMHO; however, for thesomeone with a first timemagnumto shoot it only off a bench/sled and then head up to the "big time" may result in a "scope eye" for lack of practice and full appreciation for the requisitefundamental "seperation basics"; an old pro on the other hand, probably not.
Good points, and I know where you're coming from.
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Interestingly, so many here seem to think one has to "shoot the wheels off" of a rifle to be any good with it (the old "watch out for a man with only one rifle" crappola). If we're talking high power modern scoped rifles and you are already good with them, then I would posit that it is not the case at all. These modern scoped high powered rifles just don't take that much talent --- now bowhunting --- that takes talent and lots of practice.
09-17-2005, 08:53 PM
#13
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Muncy,PA Lycoming county
Posts: 40
RE: .338 anyone shoot one?
I have read everyone's post and just wanted to say a big THANKS! Elkampmaster, thanks for the steps...I am going to try it all the first time I shoot this new gun; which incidentally I can't wait to get to the range.
Again Thanks everyone!
Again Thanks everyone!
09-17-2005, 10:30 PM
#14
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 383
RE: .338 anyone shoot one?
ORIGINAL: muncylabman
Question for anyone out there; I just bought a Remington in .338, stainless, laminated stock. Beautiful gun. Alot of guys are telling me that it's gonna kick the crap out of me, why beat myself up, etc. [
] Anyone shoot one? What's it like? I previously owned a .35 Whelen and shot that accurately...hopefully I will able to become accurate w/ this as it will be my main gun. Also the scope to go on it. I am looking at a Nikon 4-12 x 50 Buckmaster. Is this a good choice for this gun? Any help, advice, info or assistance is appreciated. THANKS![8D]
Question for anyone out there; I just bought a Remington in .338, stainless, laminated stock. Beautiful gun. Alot of guys are telling me that it's gonna kick the crap out of me, why beat myself up, etc. [
] Anyone shoot one? What's it like? I previously owned a .35 Whelen and shot that accurately...hopefully I will able to become accurate w/ this as it will be my main gun. Also the scope to go on it. I am looking at a Nikon 4-12 x 50 Buckmaster. Is this a good choice for this gun? Any help, advice, info or assistance is appreciated. THANKS![8D]
09-18-2005, 04:23 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,175
RE: .338 anyone shoot one?
ELKAMPMASTER IS DEAD ON WITH ADVICE! he helped me out a year ago with my 338. put a nice recoil pad on it and wear ear plugs with headphone earing protection over that. try to shoot in cooler temperature. 85 degrees compared to 55 is a big difference. when the shot comes for game you will never notice.
09-19-2005, 08:00 AM
#16
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 411
RE: .338 anyone shoot one?
Hi Everyone:
EKM and Liquid hit it pretty well I think. I like hunting/shootingthe bigger boys as much as anyone. I think it is important to remember that most people are practicing in the summer, wearing t-shirts etc, grump about sore shoulders, yet hunt withmany layers of clothing on. That clothing can absorb alot of recoil and also affects the LOP of the stock. You might be a bit uncomfortable, but try to practice wearing the same clothing you would in the field.
Good luck,
CE
EKM and Liquid hit it pretty well I think. I like hunting/shootingthe bigger boys as much as anyone. I think it is important to remember that most people are practicing in the summer, wearing t-shirts etc, grump about sore shoulders, yet hunt withmany layers of clothing on. That clothing can absorb alot of recoil and also affects the LOP of the stock. You might be a bit uncomfortable, but try to practice wearing the same clothing you would in the field.
Good luck,
CE
09-19-2005, 08:31 AM
#17
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: back in Ft Carson, CO
Posts: 238
RE: .338 anyone shoot one?
Everyone on here has damn good advice. The biggest thing to remember is that it is a mental thing,you have to convince yourself that its not going to be as bad as you think, that it is just an after effect. If you use these steps, you should do fien.. My personal hunting rifle is a 300 win mag, and I stepped up to it from a 243, it was a huge difference. I got advice similar to what you got here, and I can go through a box of shells now before I notice myself flinching, and my group size starts to grow. If you are a sick twisted individual like my dad says I am you can learn to enjoy the recoil, the feel of power I guess LOL. While over here in Iraq, I have got several opportunities, to shoot a Barret 50 cal Sniper Rifle. The felt recoil isnt bad, slightly worse than my 300, but the shockwave from the brake is immpressive to say the least!!!!
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