Remington 700 LSS fires when you take it off safe
 

Well I have a remington 700 LSS and it now fires when you take it off safe, if the gun is onfire when you close the bolt the gun won't fire. Something is broke because it didn't do this before. If you close the bolt on safe it won't fire untill you move the safety to fire. I knew there was a recall for this problem but this gun is only a year old and less than 100 rounds. I'll post more when I drop it off at the remington repair facility.

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keep that gun locked up tight until it gets fixed. you don't need anybody being hurt by accident.

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yea definitly call remington or bring it to a gun smith cause that is very dangerous be very carful with that gun

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It is a shame that the design even allows a parts failure to cause an inadvertantdischarge.

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This is a possible, but very rare condition. Has anyone ever attempted adjusting the trigger to a lighter pull?

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Ditto Roskoe.

I would suspect that your trigger has been adjusted excessively causing the trigger to not engage the sear when you flip the safety off and also causing the trigger and sear not to engage when you close the bolt.

The safety on a Remington seaperates the sear from the trigger when it is engaged. If the trigger is excessively adjusted to remove the take up (creep) the trigger and sear will not engage each other when you close the bolt nor when you flip off the safety thus not having anything happen when you close the bolt on fire and firing when you flip off the safety after closing the bolt with it engaged.

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Remington 700's (I have a couple old ones) are well known for their questionable trigger/safety performance. Fortunately add on equipment is available to remedy the problem, but it is amazing that Remington persists with their design as it stands.

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Trigger hasn't been adjusted, I've owned the gun since new. Talked to Remington today and they are very upset.

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You let anyone touch it and you void the factory waranties.
Send it back to Remington!

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Ditto Rebel Hog's advice.They should be upset. They have apparently sold you a somewhat dangerous implement. And they should fix it at no cost.

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and i sure as hell hope they pay for your shipping witch they should cause shipping on guns are expensive

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Remington has hadmore than onewrongful death lawsuits as a result of their M700 trigger/safety system. If they have a case that is currently ongoing and if your LSS "does it everytime", then I'm thinking that they should be more than willing to trade you one of their top of the line models of your choice for your current weapon. If it mal functions everytime, then what a great courtroom exhibit it would make in a wrongful death suit, especially with your testimony that you have had it since new and its never been touched. I'm thinking your firearm is worth far more (in a twisted sort of way) in its current state than if it was operating perfectly.

Remington R-E-A-L-L-Y needs torework their M700 series safety/trigger design.

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In defense of Big Green, however, the condition is pretty rare. Like maybe one in a thousand or more. And Remington triggers are regarded as some of the best of the field grade factory rifles. But a good aftermarket trigger - like Timney, Canjar, or Jewll - is worth considering if you own a Remington 700. Roskoe

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hmmmm I guess we will have to remember this one when the next "which gun is best" thread comes up!!!! never hear any of this crap about the 3 position safeties of Winchester and Ruger.

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This along with some other issues that I have encountered myself and read about is why I avoid Big Green. Ifone of theirguns killed someone that I cared about and the company new about this issue, I would declare war.

Tom

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Why is Remington providing this safety reminder?
According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, fatal accidents involving firearms have dropped 40% over the last ten years (1988-1998) and 69% since 1967. Although fatal firearms accidents are on a decline, Remington cares about the safety of our customers and is concerned about reports of accidental firings of Model 700 and other bolt action rifles. Such accidents can result in property, serious personal injury and even death.

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I have 3 model 700 rifles.I was huntining in colorado in 1987 with the 30-06 I pushed the safety off BANG the instant I pushed it off.When I got back home I took it to a smith he disassembled the bolt cleaned it up put it back together.No problems since.I was hunting with the 243 win two years ago setting in stand same thing happened.I had heard about a recall so I emailed Remington with serial numbers they replyed " these are not on recall list " but they would repair them for a price.I replyed with a few choice words and told them to forget it.I took it to a smith instead.

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Let them fix it. I shipped one to them a few years ago and it cost around $8 bucks. It did take a few weeks to get it back but they didnt charge anything to fix. It wasn't a trigger problem though.

Personally i would think about a timney.

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Absolutely amazing, that many incidents in the small sample of hunters who post here.
Big green is whistling while strolling past the grave yard with their trigger/safety system IMO.
It is just one reason (among several) that my rifle money goes to:
** Winchester M-70'sand
** CZ. 550's

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I have had to many 700's to count. So far its never happened on any of mine.

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Even one in a thousand is totally unacceptable when you are talking about a malfunction of thiseasily deadly type. Other firearms makers don't have this problem.

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Guns don't kill people, people do! IF anyone has the muzzle of their LOADED RIFLE pointed at someone, or pointed in an unsafe direction and pushes the safety off with fatal results, who's at fault? Certainly NOT THE RIFLE!!

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Strictly for the purpose of rebutting your comment. What about a ricochet? Yes it is unlikely.

Here is an unlikely scenario. A friend and I were standing in the woods when I was younger, around 11-13. There was a bird nest in a nearby tree with a bird sitting in it. My friend picks up a rock and jesters that he is going to throw it at the bird. I aske him what the hell he was doing and told him that I didn't want him to throw it. He threw it, right into the ground, hard. It bounced off another rock that was laying there shot up into that tree and killed that bird. We both stood there in shock.

There is no excuse for those guns being released to the public even knowing that this problem occurs in only 1 in 1,000,000 rifles. I can assure you that no one atRemington would want one of thier guns to kill someone that I care about because of this problem.

Tom

P.S. Yes you are right, guns don't kill people.

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At one time, before I knew a damn thing about rifles, I thought the 700 was as good as anything else out there. As my interest in rifles (hunting rifles) became more serious, however, I became aware of the deficiencies in the mechanical design of the 700.The designer must have said to himself, "what's the least I can get by with and still call this a rifle". I haven't owned a 700 in several years and have no desire to buy another.

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That is a special feature offered by our folks at Remington. Get the trigger adjusted or better yet replace it. I have 2 Remingtons right now. One with a nice aftermarket trigger, shoots great, and another that I have had to play with a bit but still not real happy with it. It will be replaced soon too. Keep it real clean it helps.

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Okay, the rule against ever point a rifle at someone is soooo absolute, and so "finger wavingly charged"that it is easy to hide behind and some how make the whole defective safety/trigger thing okay --- I don't think so. But to examine the problem in a bit less emotional light.....

You've paid mucho $$$$ for that once in a life time hunt and the guide has done his job and there in front of you is the once in a lifetime trophy, but the opportunity is aging by the second, as you begin to raise your trusty M700 to your shoulder you slip off the safety before your finger even enters the guard and the rifle instantly discharges into the ground 30 yards in front of you "all by itself", your trophy runs away never to be seen again, you go home empty handed, and the guide thinks you are a class A idiot.....

Is that satisfactory rifle performance?
Sounds seriously defective to me.
No matter where the rifle was pointed.

The fact that people couldget killed (safety training issuesaside) makes it just that much more unacceptable.

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Even if you were all by yourself hunting. Many places have large cities in and around an area hunted. Suppose that a person was getting ready to shoot an animal and flipped off the safety before the rifle was to his shoulder and the gun goes boom but the muzzle was pointed at an upward angle. That bullet has got to come down somewhere and in a populated area it could easily strike a person.

How many of us here ever flip the safety back and forth when we are sitting there with anticipation during those last 30 minutes of light when we just know that the big one is about to show himself. And don't say that you don't do it cause we all have.

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The points made above are valid. However, don't think for one second that this can't happen with any rifle.Mechanical things can and do go wrong with any piece of equipment. I once had a rifle of another popular brand that fired once in a while when the bolt was shut fast and hard.