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153 08-30-2005 09:00 AM

Shotgun Slugs
 
Anyone know what is caliber size of the Winchester Platium or Remington Core-loc 12 guage slug are?BC?

14mercs 08-30-2005 09:01 AM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
.50

bigcountry 08-30-2005 11:19 AM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
I believe its .63" maybe? BC of most are under .17.

Rebel Hog 08-30-2005 12:32 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
Winchester Platinum Tip sabot:
.45cal- .260gr
B.C.- .200 @ 1700fps w/90grs Pyrodex
S.D.-.183

jcchartboy 08-30-2005 03:15 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
The Winchester Platinum 12ga shellsare 400gr and .50 cal

The Remmington Core Lokt 12 ga shellsare 385gr and .50cal

Paul L Mohr 08-30-2005 03:22 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
Rebel, that is a muzzle loading load, I believe he is asking about the shotgun slug.

I was wondering the same thing and tried to do some research on it.

The bullet descriped above was designed for the .454 handgun load. From what I can tell it is also the same bullet used for muzzle loading and the 20 guage platinum slugs.

Although it never flat out says, I think the 12 gauge uses the 400 grn platinum tip bullet designed for the .500 S&W load. Since it is the only 400 grn offering they have this would be my best educated guess. It would indeed be a .50 cal bullet, or very close to it. They don't list it in thier components section. They also do not list a BC for it. I used .2 in a calculator and came up with the same ballistics they did, so that should work. I'm sure it would be between two and three.

Oddly enough the hand gun load is listed at 1800 fps and the shotgun load is at 1700 fps. I don't believe that is a handgun I would like to fire!

The only way to know for sure would be to emial or call winchester. They could probably give you the exact data you want.

Paul

Rebel Hog 08-30-2005 03:23 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
Are you asking for sabot bullets or slugs?

Supreme® Platinum Tip™ Bullets & Sabots
















The new Platinum Tip Hollow Point bullet includes Winchester's patened reverse taper jacket and notching Technology that delivers expansion and on-target energy delivery.











Sabot Caliber

Bullet Type

Bullet Weight

Symbol

Case MSRP

Box MSRP



0.50



260 gr.

WML260PTH

-- / $N/A

30 bullets / $18.90



0.45



200 gr.

WML45PTH

-- / $N/A

30 bullets / $18.90



0.54



400 gr.

WML54PTH

-- / $N/A

30 bullets / $19.75

jcchartboy 08-30-2005 03:33 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 

I think the 12 gauge uses the 400 grn platinum tip bullet designed for the .500 S&W load.
.

It would indeed be a .50 cal bullet
As stated above that is exactly correct Paul.

Winchester Platinum tipped 400gr 12ga sabot...
http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog/shotlist.aspx?use=8&gauge=12

From Winchester press release..

Stemming from the popularity of the .500 S&W, Winchester will now offer a 400-gr. Platinum Tip Hollow

Paul L Mohr 08-30-2005 06:32 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
You posted while I was typing earlier. I read the question, did a little research and posted. When my answer posted yours was there already.

But ya, that is what I got out of it as well. They don't flat out say it, but it seems like a pretty sure bet that is what they did. Just took the existing bullet they had for the S&W round and stuffed in a shotgun shell. I believe they also offer it as a 54 cal options for the ML's.

Paul

jcchartboy 08-30-2005 06:42 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
Paul, the .54 cal you are refering to is the .50 cal 400gr bullet in a Sabot. The walls of the sabot makes up the .04cal.

Wasn't sure if thats what you meant.

Paul L Mohr 08-31-2005 10:16 AM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
Yep, same bullet for all of them. The 54 cal ML uses a .50 bullet and the .50 cal ML use a 44 or 45 cal bullet.

So basically winchester only makes the two larger platinum bullets, they just use them in different delivery systems is all.

Hornady is the same way. Most of your muzzle loading bullets are just .44 or .45 cal pistol bullets in a sabot. Being over driven in my opinion. That is why I switched to the Precision Rifle bullets. Of course now that I bought a slug gun I may not get to see how they perform on deer. I know they shoot better out of my rifle though.

Rebel Hog 08-31-2005 12:45 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
Winchester 20-Gauge Platinum Tip
This 23/4-inch, 20-gauge sabot round contains the same Platinum Tip bullet that Winchester loads in their .454 Casull handgun hunting ammunition. The .454 Casull may be a giant, scary handgun, but these 260-grain, .45-caliber bullets are dainty by shotgun-slug standards. Driven at 1700 fps, and far more aerodynamic than most slugs, the Platinum Tip retains velocity—and energy—extremely well. At 100 yards, it hits with as many foot-pounds as a 12-gauge Foster slug does at the same distance. You can sight these in for 100 yards and hit only 1.1 inches high at 50 yards and 2.2 inches low at 125. For a shotgun slug, this is laserlike performance. Better yet, their light weight means they won’t hit you with the fearsome recoil we slug shooters know so well.

Paul L Mohr 08-31-2005 12:52 PM

RE: Shotgun Slugs
 
And the same thing can be said about the 12 guage version, except it drives a .50 400 grn bullet at the same speed. So you get a bit more ooomph out of it. I also shot some winchester rifled slugs that were one ounce and listed as 1760 fps.

The 12 gauge ones I shot had no less or more recoil than any of the other slugs I shot though. keep in mind my gun weighs more than 10 lbs;).

They shot pretty well out of my H&R, I would like to try some of the remingtons too. And some of the lighter rounds that go 1900 fps.

Paul


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