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Recoil wise, forget the charts! The big McMillan stock does a VERY VERY WONDERFUL job disappating the recoil, and of course the Pachmeyer Declerator pad doesn't hurt either. I have a KDF brake on mine but have shot it without it (to check for accuracy change, which it didn't) and the gun really didn't kick very bad, no more than several other mags I have. BUT the big thunder cartridge DOES produce considerable muzzleclimb without the brake. When fired from bags with the brake off the gun will stand up about 2'. Would make it hard to shoot out of shooting house windows without a brake. Other employees of my brothers also bought the Warbirds and Firebirds and I was the only one with a brake and ALL of them have dinged their guns and scopes while in shooting houses

The fact that the muzzle does rise 2' upon firing is an indication that the balance andstock design does not handle the recoil well at all.My mcmillan stocked 300ultramags do not have experience anywhere near that kind of muzzle rise upon firing yet produce much less felt recoil.
When the standard trg-s rifles were sold here in Canada the price was around $900 Canadian.The30-378 that I fired cost less than $1000 Canadian.

This is a fine rifle, with the caveats noted above. I have a friend who converts these into a wildcat round he loads, designed for 1,000m shooting. He loves these rifles to start with. I've shot several of these (after converted) and hunted with one the last two years. They are large and heavy, especially with bigger optics on top, but they really reach out there if you need to.

Well both of them, NIB, are in the gun safe as we speak. Seems that he bought them new when he opened his store, lots of years ago and has never had anyone want to buy them or look at them. Where his store is, it is the $200 guns that move and not the high dollar ones. Need to break out the reloading gear for it. I have the same 30/378 caliber in a Weatherby and think I will try to build one load that will suit all of them. Probably going to stick around 180 grain bullets in Nosler partitions or Barnes. Open to suggestions to what others have found satisfactory. This of course is just a place to start.

TC that's GREAT news and yes those guns need to be in your safe, you STOLE them!!! :D

I don't know what kind of ammo plans you have, if you are planning on reloading then I FULLY recommend the Barnes Triple Shock. Either weight is your choice, and they will stand up too all the abuse the mighty Wby can dish out. As for factory fodder, Weatherby offers a 180 Barnes Xbullet. (Their data says 3450, that is HOT and I would think your gun would be closer too the 3300ish fps range but either speed spells LIGHTSOUT for anything with a pulse!) Pesonally I would stay away from Nosler Parts in these kinds of guns simply because they will essentially "melt" lol when they hit anything. Seperated cores and horribly deformed jackets will be your end result when firing them at these kinds of velocities. I shot a few 150NPs from my Warbird when new, but never hunted with them. A couple of my buddies with Firebirds stubbornly insist on NPs yet they grumble about the horrific damage the bullets do and how much fragmentation they suffer. The processor groans when he sees their deer and only smiles when he sees mine!

Good luck and congrats again, welcome aboard the "A-Train of trajectory"...

I will have to play with the Barnes. Early on it seemed that a rifle either loved them or hated them. Haven't been around the triple shock. Been on the big gun kick for a while. My main hunting weapon is the .340 Weatherby. I am strictly a horn hunter and don't meat hunt, don't need to. I took a Kudu in Namibia at 356 yards with the .340. That is the difference between hunting with something like that and a 3006. Nothing against 3006, great gun, but when you get to 350 and 400 yards you don't have to do a lot of figuring drop charts. The .340 drops 14 inches for me at 350 yards. Both shots were 6 inches apart and the first one I forgot to allow for a cross wind. Kudu bull didn't go 15 feet from the first shot. I had to explain to the PH that I wasn't from Europe and in the west a 350 yard shot with the right brace should be a chip shot.