new england firearms
 

any input on them? there real cheap and i was thinkin of picking one up in a 12ga. since the only gun i own is a .22. thanks

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They have worked very well for me. I have a 12 Ga. and quite a few of their rifles. They all shoot good hunting size groups and IMO are well worth the money.

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NEF and H&R are the same company. anyway their firearms all seem to shoot pretty good. i have foura .22cal, two .223's and an old 12 ga. they allshoot very good. i don't think you can go wrong for the price.:)

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I have one in 243 and I love it! They dont have the athestetics that other rifles have but they do have the accureacy! The single shot I have can keep 1 and 1 half inch patterns at 100 yards with me shooting it. It would probably be better than that if a better shooter were behind the trigger. I will take this one whitetail hunting this year. EJ

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I just couldn't help but chuckle when I read that! If myrifles pattern they get traded off on one that groups:D....shotgunspattern!:D

My uncle has an NEF 243 that he topped with a Vari-X II 3-9(Don't ask, I can't get him to justify it either). Anyway, the rifle shoots well, but it's not going to win any awards. It'll group about 1" on a really good group, but hangs out about 1.25-1.75" generally most times. For whitetails in PA at ranges not exceeding 150 yards it does just fine. As far as the shotguns go they are fine. Nothing fancy for sure, but they'll get the job done. I do not suggest you shoot heavy 3" magnums though....they just plain hurt out of those really lightweight break actions![:@]:D

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I was a bird hunter long before I was a big game hunter, not to mention that my wife uses the word pattern alot. At least I didnt say any reference to scrapbooking! :)

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Don't let anyone shet you! Not all guns, (or shooters) get <.5" groups! WhileI have seen some people post pics of some really tight groups here, it seems that most everyone comming from the range just shot "a group that you can cover with a dime!" (BS! they convieniently never have the proof with them!) Most of these people at workI know don't go to the range except once a year! Natural born, gifted shooters, I say!
1-1/2" is fine for any hunting gun!

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My belief exactly! Oldelkhunter says it best when he says that more dime size groups exist on the web than at the range! Yeah, honestly, 3 inches is the best I can do with my 30-06 at 100 yards laying down on my jacket. The 243 NEF is the 1 1/2 shooter. A three inch area is groceries where I come from! EJ

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I agree that if a rifle will group 1 1/2 inch everytime out even with shooter error, It a game getter. Some folks can hold a rifle very steady or have a good rest and can beat that at times. I want a rifle that will hit within an inch or so of where I aim at the ranges I hunt. Thats all thats required. The harder I try for tiny groups, the bigger they get.[:@]

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I've also been looking at the NEF's for a while now and I will probably pick one up soon. They do seem like a good deal and i know a lot of guys on this site have had/are having good results using them.

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Have 2 one in 45/70 & there handi/lite model in 223. There a lill odd looking but shootgood enoughfor me.

I dont know if those basic shotguns( frames) will take the rifle barrels.But the rifles you can buy extra barrels for including shotgun barrels& they dont cost a whole lot. Something you may want to check out before buying the 12 gauge.

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I have an H&R 223 Ultra heavy barrel gun. It WILL do 5-shot 1-inch groups with reloads at 100 yards with a 32X scope, but not always. It shoots best after 5 or 6 fouling shots. Ipopped a crow at 120 yards from a deer stand with it. And no, I was not hunting deer with it. I had my 30-06 there for that. These guns usually take about 200 shots to break them in. The trigger is heavy, but has no creep. I enjoy shooting it. People at the gun range are amazed that it shoots as well as it does. Now, my 243 and 25-06 don't shoot as well, but I have not played with them as much.

John

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NEF actually 'feels' solid. I recently bought one in .410 ga for dog training. Haven't shot it yet but don't anticipate any problems. What surpised me is that they can be fitted with different barrels. It was either that or purchase a Rossi but I'll pick a firearm made here over a Brazilian made gun anyday.

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I have a Remingtom BDL 7mm Mag that I shot a 3 shot group that you could cover with a dime. I shot a fourth shot and pulled it about 2" out of group.... Needless to say that 4th shot was not pictured in the group:DBut on real time this gun is defently a MOA gun.... I just bought another Rem 300 Mag. And I'm really hoping for 1" or better;)