boyd's gunstocks
 

Does anyone have experience with boyd's gunstocks? I'm thinking of buying an inexpensive savage 110 in .243 or .308 and put a boyd's thumbhole laminate stock on it. My main concern is if this is a drop-in install, because i dont want to have to do any woodworking, just put the stock in place and go. The stocks themselves seem to have a very reasonable price. Also, do you think this stock will affect accuracy of the savage gun? Thanks in advance.

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These may or may not be a true "drop in" - but the amount of tweaking necessary to get it to fit is generally very minimal. A little sanding . . . . maybe a little dab of the dremel tool. And a little glass bedding compound . . . Pretty basic stuff.

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My experience with my laminated stock for my Howa 1500 echoes Roskoe's. A little hogging out of the forend to make sure the barrel wasn't touching, a little touch of the dremel tool at the rear of the bolt so that the bolt could be opened. Really not a big deal. Also wound up putting a bit of bedding compound around the recoil lug. Shoots much better now than with the original Butler Creek plastic stock. Looks much better, too. Good deal for the price, got it on sale for about $120 at Midway.

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Take a look at Richard's Microfit gunstocks. They will be as close to "drop-in" as you'll find and I think look better than Boyd's.

www.rifle-stocks.com

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You may be limited in a 110 243. The only one that will fit is a JRS classic. I JUST ran into this problem. Bought a thumbhole sporter, but the 110 long action AND the 10 short action both don't fit. There is an "intermediate" action available in the JRS classic that will fit a 243 in 110. Hope that helps. Otherwise the stock I had was pretty nice. Gray laminate, machined well, I was intent on finishing it myself.

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While I agree they look better, in my experience with three Savage stocks from Richard's they are far from "drop-in". It took quite a bit of careful sanding, fitting and bedding to get them right.

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I just finished a Turk Mauser sporterization and I put it in a Boyds JRS stock. I bought the "Finished" model. It was not "drop in", but in less than a copule hours with a dremel tool, I had it in and looking good, and I am no master woodworker. I plan on shooting it this weekend. I would recomend these stocks highly.

FYI - When I bought the stock it said that the Mauser models often need minor inletting due the the many slight variations of Mausers over the years.

Erik

Rusty Axe Camp

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No, I agree they are not "drop-in" I thought that was clear in my post. I've yet to come across an after-market stock that was "drop-in".

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I purchased a laminated thumbhole sporter stock from Boyds two years ago. It only required minimal sanding to make the fit correct. This can be done by a novice just be patient. I like the looks and feel of the stock and I'm pleased with my purchase. I did take it to the local gunsmith and have it bedded. The only drawback to the design is it isn't ambidextrous. So if you need to shoot with the left hand it is a little awkward. I have done it with good success though.

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Let me say one more thing about boyds. Since i had to deal with returning a stock, I want to give them good marks on being nice and courteous with me for getting things straightened out.

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I have recent experience with a Boyd's stock. I recently re-built an old, mis-matching Yugoslav M48 military "Mauser" into a sporter, using the original barreled action...and a Boyd's JRS laminate stock. The inletting was nearly perfect (a virtual drop-in) - only requiring a wee bit of wood removal in the barrel channel, to clear the rear sight sleeve on the barrel... and just a bit at the tang area, for clearance of the bolt shroud. If I had not retained the iron sights on this rifle, absolutely NO inletting work (other than the tang area) would have been needed. The surface of the stock was sanded to 100 grit...just as stated on Boyd's website, with no defects. Altogether, it was easy to finish the stock project. I would recommend the Boyd's stock as a quality product.

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I did a savage 111 in 223 two winters ago. It went well, but I had to do a bit of work on the barrel end due to what they had in stock. It is a gray laminate varmitter. It had the vented fore end. I wouldn't due that next time (It made the barrel bedding tool dig in hard in spots)and I don't think that it does much for barrel cooling. It came rough sanded and it fit well, but it was important to have an ideal fit. So short of pillar block bedding, I used brownell's accu glass gel kit. It worked well and I am extremely happy with the accuracy that I get out of this heavy barrelled prairie dog gun.

My friends have several savage actions which they have already started to talk of having rebarreled and stocked due to the results of my savage.

It was a little work, but I am very satisfied with the results. You might try there fitting service.

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If you order everything right and don't need to return anything or change anything you might be alright. I accidentally ordered the wrong stock and what a nightmare. First off you will have to pay 15% more. Second you can not email or call these people. Very,very poor communication. Customer service is the worse on the planet. Third you will have to modify the stock when you get it. They machine it close and you must do the rest to get your gun to fit. Keep the stock you have. Save your money.

Seems like you're digging up old threads about Boyd's stocks just to bash them. This thread is ~9yrs old, the other one you posted on today was 12yrs old... Both of these posts making up your only two posts to this forum.

I can say that I have not had the same experience with Boyd's customer service. Yes, if you ordered the wrong stock, there is a restocking fee for exchanges, and they will not replace it if you have altered the stock in any way. That's on you for ordering the wrong stock. I have contacted them with questions to ensure I received the right stock for my application, even negotiated a "you're telling me this fits, if it doesn't, you foot the shipping bill" agreement with them. Wasn't an issue, since they were right, it fit.

It is also intentional that they ship stocks with the inlet at minimum tolerance. There's nothing you can do with a stock if it's too loose, can't put wood back on. But ANYONE can run sandpaper. This is a common practice in the stock making industry.

Here's a snippet from boyd's page:

Definitions of BOYDS' Finished, Unfinished and Semi-Inlet Stocks

(FINISHED)

Factory fit and finished references stocks that have been 100% fit and sanded to our house action, then finished with one of Boyds' superior finishes. Factory Fit stocks can be pulled from the box and bolted to your firearm with no fitting; however, on occasion, sight variations of individual guns may occur, requiring slight fitting that a novice should be able to perform. Please consult a competent and qualified gunsmith if you need assistance. A competent and qualified gunsmith is defined as a person who, at a minimum, works for your firearm manufacturers warranty or service center OR a person who has had 10 years or more of gunstock installation experience and has graduated from a gunsmith college with at least a two-year Associate Arts & Science (A.A.S.) degree in gunsmithing.

House Actions

House actions refer to the steel we use to fit and finish our gunstocks. It is quite common to find variations in the metal of like firearms. Therefore, for our fitting purposes, we try to choose the metal smallest in size to help assist in machining a product that is aesthetically appealing on all receivers. When machining barrel channels, unless stated otherwise, we will use the manufacturer's standard sporter barrel. When machining Mauser actions, Boyds' will typically use a #1 contour barrel.

So both of these paragraphs mention that they cut the inlets to a "minimum specification".

This is also a snippet from their Returns section of their "Policies" link...

Please inspect product within 10 days of receipt to insure that you have received the proper stock and that it is free from defects. Natural cosmetic imperfections such as minor knots, burls, heartwood, mineral lines or minor cosmetic fill work are not considered a defect and will be subject to the 12% restocking fee. Factory seconds are purchased as is and cannot be returned. If you receive the wrong stock please call customer service. If for any other reason a return is required, a 12% restocking fee will be imposed and shipping fees will not be reimbursed. Alterations to your stock and/or forend of any kind, will void any and all warranty and the return of your part will not be allowed. Proof of purchase must accompany all returns.

Not my experience with Boyds. The barrel & action dropped in no sanding or dremel work necessary. Anytime I called I also got my questions answered.

Boyds is an very good company to deal with and they have a good product for a reasonable price. This is just another dreaded first time poster who just came on and brought up very old threads to diss a company where everything he mentions was his own fault! :confused0024: :rolleye0011: