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Dukebh40 05-25-2005 02:12 PM

.300 win mag
 
ive read up alot about using this on deer. on replys to this post i would apprciate it that u dont tell me im overgunned or anything of the sort. im comfortable with this cartridge and every thing about the gun. my question is ive read that meat damage with this caliber has alot to do with the type of bullet you use. my grandpas old load for this gun is sierra pro hunter 150 grain around 3200 or 3100. i live in one of those places where u can get shots at 10 yds or 300 yds. is this load goin to penetrate and not do too much damage at close shots. i will be reloading so i have the choice of bullets. thanks alot guys.

SWAMPMAN 05-25-2005 02:19 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
Dukebh40,
I've been using Sierra's 165 gr SBT Gameking in my 300 mag loads for years. I've never had a problem with meat destruction . it makes a nice small going in and usually blasts the heck out of the opposite shoulder wall, but the shoulder roasts remain in good shape. Hope this helps.:D

Superpig 05-25-2005 03:09 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
With the velocities you can achieve with the 300 and a 150 gr bullet you might want to go to one of the bonded core type bullets. They will not fragment like the Sierra Pro Hunter on close in shots. However, the load you have has worked so put the bullet behind the shoulder in the heart lung area and don't worry about it.

Virginia7 05-25-2005 04:34 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 

i would apprciate it that u dont tell me im overgunned or anything of the sort. im comfortable with this cartridge and every thing about the gun.
Ha, ha, he's ducking before any "shots" are fired

Some good advise noted above. 300Win.Mag. for deer - ok. There's no such thing as
"overkill" - dead is dead. It's your shoulder.
Given the ranges you noted, if you want to use 150gr. bullets I'd stick with nothing but the premium type such as Nosler Partitions, bonded cores, etc. Close range & high velocity, with the lighter/softer bullets can = blowups.
Better, I think, to go with heavier bullets such as the good quality 165gr. or even a
180gr. With the velocities you get out of the 300Win.Mag. you shouldn't have to worry too much about bullet drop at the longer ranges. In fact, at some point the heavier bullets will often have a flatter trajectory, and are not subject to as much wind drift.
Check out the ballistics tables for comparison purposes.

Rebel Hog 05-25-2005 04:53 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
Guys, go to Alaska and try to give an Eskimo a .300mag.
He's going to stand there with a big smile on his face and
think you dance with wolves.

Dukebh40 05-25-2005 04:55 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
lol virginia i figured i should say that bc ive seen the abuse people get whenever they say they use anything bigger than a 22. that'll probably get me in trouble for sayin that too though. im not really set on using 150's its just that if i dont have to my old load is accurate and i dont really want to change it if i dont need to (dont fix something thats not broke). another question my grandpa always used regular large rifle primers. is there any reason to use magnum. im dont really understand what it does thats special. try to explain please. what bullets would u guys recommend for a load that could be used to take deer bear and maybe boar or elk sometime. mainly deer though. any bullet recommendations are welcolmed and wanted. what would u think of a 165 partition. thanks

Rebel Hog 05-25-2005 05:01 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 

ORIGINAL: Dukebh40
mainly deer though.

6.5mm, .260 or .270

Virginia7 05-25-2005 05:31 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 

is there any reason to use magnum. im dont really understand what it does thats special. try to explain please. what bullets would u guys recommend for a load that could be used to take deer bear and maybe boar or elk sometime. mainly deer though. any bullet recommendations are welcolmed and wanted. what would u think of a 165 partition. thanks
Generally, for the larger/magnum cartridges the magnum primers are used to provide
a hotter spark for use with the slower burning powders. There's something to be said too for more uniform ignition & complete burning of the powders in the larger cases. But, it all comes down to what works best for your rifle. It's not unusual to find a load that shoots best with standard primers, and not the magnums. Temperatures can play a part too. If hunting in extreme cold climate a magnum primer could be advantageous.

Now, for the game you noted I'd be inclined to try a good 165gr. bullet such as Nosler Partitions, or Trophy Bondeds. Maybe the newer Remington Core-Lokt Ultras.
If however, you're looking a LARGE bears (griz & browns), then get some good 180gr.

SWAMPMAN 05-25-2005 05:52 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
Dukebh40,
My favorite load for the 300 wm is 83.0gr of H1000, magnum primer and a Sierra 165gr SBT Gameking. I would have told you this earlier, but I had to run for a bit. It's always been a good load up for me. Certainly worth a try.:D

SWAMPMAN 05-25-2005 05:55 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
Dukebh40,
My favorite load in the 300wm is a 165gr Sierra SBT Gameking sitting on 83gr of H1000 and a magnum primer. This load has always worked well for me. Maybe worth a try.:D

SWAMPMAN 05-25-2005 06:13 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
Sorry for the double post, I didn't think the first one went through

Dukebh40 05-25-2005 06:31 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
i have some 180 gamekings layin around. they worth a try? ive been using them in the 30 06. will these provide good penetration on close shots. i know i ask that alot but i would hate to wound a deer or have it run a long way. thats one of the reasons im usin the 300 to start with. thanks

oldelkhunter 05-25-2005 06:51 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 

My favorite load for the 300 wm is 83.0gr of H1000, magnum primer and a Sierra 165gr SBT Gameking. I would have told you this earlier, but I had to run for a bit. It's always been a good load up for me. Certainly worth a try.

But does it blow fist size holes in the deer?

SWAMPMAN 05-25-2005 07:39 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
OEH,
No way, for fist sized holes I need my trusty 243 or 22-250. ;)

James B 05-25-2005 09:12 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
I used the 300 Win Mag back in my rambo days.;) I would recommend 180 grain bullets for everything in the 300 Mag. Maybe for the big bears I would go with the 200 Grain Partition. The 180 grain bullet tends to do less meat damage bcause the jackets are a bit thicker. Its a good all around big game rifle to much recoil for the old magnum battered shoulder now adays but ok for not yet shot out shoulders.:D

UThunter 05-26-2005 10:20 AM

RE: .300 win mag
 
I would also reccomend 180's for most shooting, as they seem to shoot the best out of my gun. I do want to try some 220's though

Dukebh40 05-26-2005 01:34 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
if u had a choice between tryin the 165 patrition or hornady interbond what would u try. ive read ALOT of good things about both. thanks for the help guys im really learning

SWAMPMAN 05-26-2005 02:27 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
I'd use the Nosler. :D

Virginia7 05-26-2005 07:39 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 

ORIGINAL: SWAMPMAN
I'd use the Nosler. :D
I'll 2nd that motion! But, what about the Trophy Bonded bullets from Speer? I think I'd
rather use it than either the Hornady or the Nosler.

bronko22000 05-28-2005 04:31 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
Duke, Like some of the guys are saying, the 150 may be too 'tender' as they put it and may cause a good bit of meat damage, particularly if hit in the shoulder. If your worried about meat damage, try to avoid the shoulder and shot just behind it or, if close enough, a neck shot (except if you want the mount). A shot just behind the shoulder with a 150 gr bullet at 3000+ fps will cause horrific damage to the lungs and the hydroshock will be substantial.
If your shots are mostly out there at the 300 yd mark, I would go to a 180 gr bullet. I load my 300WM with 72 gr of IMR4350 behind a 180 Sierra Pro Hunter and a Rem 9 1/2 magnum primer.

Roskoe 05-28-2005 04:36 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
I have used this same load in my .300 Win Mag (with a Winchester Large Rifle primer) with very good results. The flatbase bullet seems to be a little tougher than the boat-tail bullet, which is good at these higher speeds. Great all round load for this caliber.

Cottoneye Joe 05-29-2005 03:57 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
I roll my own with 180 grain Nosler Accubond and have had excellent results with them for the .300 Win Mag.

NVMIKE 05-29-2005 11:24 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
I use 180 grain barnes X bullets all my families 300WM's, that way you dont have to sight in for different ranges ect...one load, all seasons, allgame,all the time. the best(most accurate)powder and primer will probably change from gun to gun.

MizzoukiSpot 05-30-2005 04:39 PM

RE: .300 win mag
 
Those super expanding bullets kill quickly, but I also have seen great results, without as much damage, from partitions. I shoot 180 grain weight in my 300. Hornady makes a nice load at 2960...it is a spire point...my gun loves them, deer dont.


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