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22-250
If i wanted to shoot does with my 22-250 (remington 700 vsf leupold 6-18 with target nobs) i was wondering if the load i use on coyotes, a 55 grain ballistic tip would penetrate well enough for a head or neck shot on small texas does. The reason i ask about the ballistic tip is because it is shooting less than .5 moa out of my gun. I am very capable with that gun so shot placement will not be an issue. I am not trying to spark a debate i just want to know if it is capable of what i want it to do (i know of the better contructed deer bullets in .224 and none of them have shot well enough for me out of my gun)
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RE: 22-250
Yep the bigger and better deer bullets in that caliber require a different twist rate for best accuracy. Head and Neck shots are pretty risky unless the range is relatively short . Prepare yourself you'll get a lot of varied responses on this.
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RE: 22-250
texhookem,
No slam on your marksmanship at all, but I wouldn't allow it on my hunting lease. There's just too much of a possibility of wounding an animal.  |
RE: 22-250
22-250 is a VARMINT cartridge! Will the 55gr. bullet do the job on deer hit in the head?
Probably, yes. Neck shot, maybe. But why? Why is it folk got to try these dang fool stunts to see how small a cartridge/bullet they can use to dispatch an animal? For varmints a 22-250 is okay. For deer, use a proper deer cartridge! The animals deserve our best, not the least we can figure to get away with. |
RE: 22-250
There are NO .22 calibers that are suitable for deer hunting! I wouldn't use any one of them even on a Cues (sp?) deer doe!
.22's and head shots equal lost deer! |
RE: 22-250
I know several ranchers who hunt deer with their 22-250 rifles because many of them always carry one in their trucks. I have no expierence shooting deer with the 55 grain Ballistic tip but the 55 grain Hornady works well. I have seen a few big mule deer bucks taken with the 22-250 which is a legal deer gun in our state. As is the 223.
I wouldn't use one now because I have rifles that are better suited for deer hunting. However at one time the only rifle I had that was legal for deer in our state was a 222 Savage O&U rifle. It worked well for me and I never lost an animal while using it. 25 caliber is my minimum now. |
RE: 22-250
60gr Partition or 55gr Gameking
The only bullets I would use on deer in a .22 Centerfire. Not saying I would use a .22 centerfire on deer but if I were to it would be with either a .22-250 or .220 Swift. |
RE: 22-250
I used my 22-250 to take a doe on a late season hunt. she wasnt far away tho, only about 20-25yards (coulda got her with my knife) I was there to kill limb rats (squirrels) because there were no signs of deer all season. then she walked out at daybreak, so i put it in her ear. 45gr 4000fps was moving, she didnt even finish the step she was taking.
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RE: 22-250
The 22-250 itself is certainly up to the task of taking Texas deer or any other deer for that matter.
If you are loading your own I would try the Barnes bullets in the same weight range as the ballistic tips you are shooting now. Like the 50 grain X, the 53 grain TSX, or the 53 grain XLC. If you don't reload then Federal loads the 55 grain TBBC and the 60 grain partition. Connely precision loads the Barnes bullets, the TBBC and the partition. http://www.cpcartridge.com/22-250-V.htm These listed here are all big game bullets and are designed to be used on big game animals in a .22 caliber centerfire rifle. There is no reason not to use it if you want to. Even with body shots this cartridge is more than up to the task of deer hunting so long as big game bullets are used. I would not trust a ballistic tip bullet on a deer. |
RE: 22-250
I wouldn't have imagined a 55 grain ballistic tip would be very effective on even smaller big game animals. However, there is this rancher I know who keeps a .22-250 on his porch for any critters that need extermination. His ranch is in country that is home to coyotes, deer, elk, and bear. All of these animals, at one time or another, have fallen to that old .22-250. Some thrashed around for a short period of time, but not one has run off wounded. I also know a game warden who has killed an amazing variety of big game over the years with the only rifle he carries in his truck - a .22-250 Remington.
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RE: 22-250
From using a 22-250 on Tx deer , to seeing many taken with a 22-250 in tx , it will do the job fine. If someone on here or anywhere tells you it wont then they are dumb.Hit em straight through the shoulder / spine and they will hit the ground like a safe.
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RE: 22-250
I have personaly seen the 22-250 with 55 gr hollow points blow holes in deer you could put your fist in, course these were 100lb texas hill country deer. but Ive never seen other calibers do that on the same size deer here.
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RE: 22-250
Yes - a neck shot would work with that bullet.
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RE: 22-250
Fiahblade,
I wasn't sure if I was dumb or not. Thanks for enlightening me. You can do whatever you want in Texas or any other state, but you're not hunting deer on my property with a cf 22. What I don't get is why anyone would want to. It's a varmint cartridge. I have no doubt that if placed properly, it will kill a whitetail, but for every marksman capable of threading that needle, how many others are out there that aren't and try to copy you because they think it's "cool". Have a little respect for the game you're hunting and use a proper deer cartridge. Additionally, I don't want "fist size holes "through my shoulder or neck roasts anyway. |
RE: 22-250
SWAMPMAN I asked a simple question, i wanted to know whether or not a 22-250 loaded with bt's would take a smallish size doe with a neck shot. I did not ask for your oppinion on whether or not youd allow me to do it on your property, like i said in my post i did not want a debate i just wanted to know if it would do the job. I have other big game rifles suited to the job and i would never shoot a trophy buck which could weigh over 200 pounds on the hoof with a 22-250. Id use my 300 or 30-06 for that. I would rather put a doe down on the spot with a neck shot out of my 22-250 than have to possibly go look for in the brush, lots of catus and thorns. For a deer that weighs only around 100 pounds i know for a fact at 22-250 will do the job if you do yours, i was only wondering if ballistic tips would as well although they are poorly contructed. And on the issue of people copying me to see if its cool i know many people who start their kids off with 223's or 22-250's and they work fine(albiet they use soft point ammo as opposed to bt's), and i even know a guide who uses his 220 swift for everything, including a nilgai bull which he dropped with a neck shot.
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RE: 22-250
Hookem, I wouldnt reccomend the BT's, all though they will more than likely work, I suggest you go with a little better constructed bullet and go pop'em in the neck, or the heart or the lungs. LOL.
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RE: 22-250
ORIGINAL: texhookem SWAMPMAN I asked a simple question, i wanted to know whether or not a 22-250 loaded with bt's would take a smallish size doe with a neck shot. Swampman, I guess we are the dumb ones! The smart ones are the ones who pick any .22 for deer hunting, when there are hundreds of better choices out there! |
RE: 22-250
texhookem,
I guess I'm not willing to horribly wound a great game animal in an effort to rack up "macho points" by doing it with a 22. If it isn't for "macho points", then why do it at all? To prove a point? Why? texhookem, I did answer your simple question, I said I'm sure it will kill a whitetail if properly placed. Also, you responded to something I wrote back to Fiahblade who said that several of us were dumb for not beleiving in the 22-250. Additionally I responded to zrexpilot who remarked about "fist sized holes" in his venison. I'm sure you can kill whitetail with a 22-250, I just don't know why you'd take a chance on wounding game when another rifle caliber can better do the job. I also know "a guide" that regularly hunts feral hogs with a spear, but I don't consider it a sane act. I responded as honestly as possible to your question, I'm sorry you didn't like my answer.  |
RE: 22-250
JagMagMan i know you are trying to make a point but comparing a pellet gun to a 22-250 is ridiculous. I never said anyone was dumb and the person who made that statement was probably just trying to say that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to 22 centerfires for deer. I may be wrong but you have most likely never used one on a deer and have never seen one used on a deer, although i know SWAMPMAN sure hasnt because he does not allow them on his property. The point you are trying to make is based on second hand information and like i just said earlier i didnt ask for your oppinion on whether or not i should use a 22-250. I am not gonna tell you how to hunt and i dont expect you to tell me how to hunt either. I just tried to ask a simple question and this is what i get.
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RE: 22-250
SWAMPMAN regularly shoots coyotes on his property with a 22-250.:D
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RE: 22-250
SWAMPMAN the question had nothing to do with your oppinion on whether or not i should use my 22-250 did it? Especially after I put i do not want a debate in my original post i would imagine you would keep your thoughts to yourself. If i honestly believed using my 22-250 was to risky and inhumane i sure as hell would not use it.
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RE: 22-250
SWAMPMAN please stop I really do not want to argue with you, and what does a coyote have to with me using my 22-250 on deer?
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RE: 22-250
texhookem,
OK, Peace. Let's just agree to disagree. Good luck to you.:D |
RE: 22-250
My final statement to you is that i do not want to use my 22-250 to rack up MACHO POINTS. I simply want to use it so i can put the SMALL TEXAS DOE down quickly and humanely. I do not want to go back through the fact that i would not use it on a larger bodied deer.
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RE: 22-250
alright good luck to you
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RE: 22-250
i just want to add something. the 22-250 works fine on deer. two of my cousins in kentucky used on just fine to kill many 200 # kentucky deer. in capable hands it's fine. but the person shooting it has to be sure of himself and ability.
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RE: 22-250
ORIGINAL: SWAMPMAN Additionally I responded to zrexpilot who remarked about "fist sized holes" in his venison. I'm sure you can kill whitetail with a 22-250, I just don't know why you'd take a chance on wounding game when another rifle caliber can better do the job. .
Wounding ? Ha Ha ! Ive never seen a deer walking around with fist size holes in their chest . LOL 22-250 is a fine deer cartridge. Specially when deer here rarely exceed 150 lbs.But If ever I got to hunt 300lb deer up north, well then I would have to step up to my .243. :D But I guess for some of you who cant shoot and need something to take down a gut shot deer quickly go for nothing less then a .300. Ha Ha. LOL. |
RE: 22-250
AH, SwampMan I have a .22-250. Would you invite me on your lease
for just one deer? I'll give you half of it!:D:D:D:D:D |
RE: 22-250
Rebel Hog,
You're welcome anytime but leave the pop-gun at home unless we're ginna shoot coyotes.;) |
RE: 22-250
Dang,, I guess I leave my handirifle in 22 hornet home..I was so looking to headshoot a doe this year
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RE: 22-250
I take that as a NO:D |
RE: 22-250
Ive never seen a deer walking around with fist size holes in their chest |
RE: 22-250
have personaly seen the 22-250 with 55 gr hollow points blow holes in deer you could put your fist in |
RE: 22-250
FWIW... evidently lots of people had tinkered with the idea of a 22-250 or similiar varmint cartridge on Deer. Watching the TTH show(Texas Trophy Hunters) the other night they were extolling the virtues of a 224 TTH. I think it is a fine concept if that is your cup of tea and should work with lightweight deer only. Anytime you use a heavy for caliber bullet you stack the odds in your favor when it comes to penetration...bone,hide whatever it will penetrate better. So using a cartridge not really designed for medium game like a 22-250 you have the ability to kill a small deer when a heavy bullet is used and the rifling twist can accomodate that heavy bullet . Even with all that I still think a larger caliber is a better choice for hunting medium game. . Why do I think this way? Because we owe it to the quarry to put its life to an end and quickly. Our focus should be immediate death not "oh geez if I head shoot him he ought to drop like a sack of potatoes ". Remember this is not fly fishing where ultralight tackle is used and the fish lives for another day. Nothing turns my stomach anymore then wounding an animal and nothing pleases me more then a immediate end to a hunted animals life .
Thats my opinion FWIW |
RE: 22-250
ORIGINAL: SWAMPMAN have personaly seen the 22-250 with 55 gr hollow points blow holes in deer you could put your fist in |
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