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I will be new to hunting this year and would like some seasoned advice from you all. I have been looking for a big game rifle (elk, moose, etc) and am now thinking the 300 winchester magnum would be a good cartridge. What I would really appreciate is your opinions on is a good, quality rifle. I was looking at the Remington 700 BDL LSS as well as the Ruger M77 Mark II Sporter. Does anybody have any experience with these rifles or would you suggest I look at another brand alltogether? I just don't want to make a mistake I will regret everytime I get out the rifle to go practice or hunt. My local gun shop would have to order the Ruger and has the Remington in stock and is willing to sell it at the Ruger price, should I do it? All help is greatly appreciated!
Para_packer

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I well take a lot of **** for this one but look at the charles daly mauser. I got one 3 weeks ago and i was impressed with this gun out of the box with factory ammo shot less than 1 inch at 100 yards. I will not nock the ruger I have one of them to dam good gun. But the mauser is about $150.00 cheaper. Remmys have had some problems with quatly for the past few years. If you want a remmington get a good used one you will be better off. just my thought hope this helps

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I ve herd good things about teh ruger line up but have you look at brownings. there beautiful high quality and accurate firearms, but you will have to pay for it.

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While you're shopping, take a look at the Tikka T3's. They are great quality guns at a very reasonable price. They are guaranteed and tested to shoot a sub-1" 5 shot group at 100 yards at the factory. The action is very well made and glass smooth, and both the wood and composite stocks are good quality. The trigger is user adjustable down to 2lbs, and it is very crisp and clean with the least creep I've ever felt in a factory trigger with the exception of Tikka's big brother, Sako. The gun also has dovetails machined into the receiver so it doesn't need bases and comes with scope rings. It also includes sling swivels, but they aren't as good as the quick detachable sling swivels most of us are used to.

You should be able to pick one up for between $500-575 depending on the configuration, and if you look you can get them for better than that. I just brought home a T3 Lite in .300WSM that was clearanced at Scheel's for the great price of $429, with a regular price of $499.

Mike

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I am partial to Rugers. I have three of them. You couldn't give me a Remington. If you want a good value for your buck also take a look at a Savage.

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I have both the ruger and the remington. you'll be happy either way. Pick the one that fits you better. If one shots better than the other; it outshoots me.
Nice things about the ruger
1. Free scope rings
2. Controlled round feed (if you like it)
3. great build quality
4. three position saftey( if you like it)
Nice things about the remington
1. remington action (if you like it)
2. two position saftey ( if you like it)
3. great build quality

300 win mag is a great round
Farmanimal

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I have fired many remington 700's in a variety of chamberings and found them to be the most consistantly accurate factory made rifle with the possible exception of the tikka t-3's that I have fired recently.

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I have owned both. The Remington was sold and I have the Ruger. The only complaint I had with the Remington was that it did not fit me well. I found the felt recoil to be more noticable, if that is the correct term, than any other rifle I have had. Accuracy was good but I was getting the same, if not better, from rifles that fit me better.

That being said, I believe getting a Remington BDL LSS for the same prices a a Ruger M77 is a pretty good deal. They seem to run about $150 or more.

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Thanks for the advice so far! It kinda makes me feel not as clueless as I had originally thought on this subject. I have looked at the Brownings and I do not doubt their quality, just a little rich for my blood, maybe when I have a really GOOD job I will be able to afford one. The local gun shop has one used, but I want to stay away from used if possible, I don't know what the previous owner did with it so I will stick to new. Also looked at the Savages, without a doubt one of the best values around, but seem to be a little bulkier than a comparable Remington or other rifle. Does anybody know about/used their new Accu Trigger? What do you think of it? Believe it or not, I also looked at the Tikkas, never heard of them before but looked anyway. They are purportedly very accurate out of the box, but the prices I saw seemed a bit high...maybe those were the MSRPs that store owners post so it looks like you are getting a REALLY good deal!;) Any other thoughts would be appreciated! What do your hubting buddies think, etc? (I don't have any hunting buddies yet...never been hunting) Thanks again for your invaluable input!
Para_packer

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I have both a Savage 10ML-II with Accu-Trigger and a Tikka T3 that I just bought. I can't say how the Tikka shoots, cause I haven't shot it yet, but if it lives up to Tikka reputation and guarantee, then I know I'll be happy.

The Accu-Trigger is GREAT. Very easy to adjust with on screw, very crisp with almost no creep. It has more overtravel than I'd like, but that's less important than creep and break. It's worth the extra $75 that you'll pay for a rifle so equipped.

As far as the Tikka's go, the MSRP's are really high. For a T3 Lite or T3 Hunter (blued/synthetic or blued/walnut respectively) like I have, the regular price at my local Scheel's is $480. I got mine on clearance for $430. The higher end models with stainless steel and/or laminate stocks cost about $100 more. The varmint version in a little more as well. But for $480 the T3 is a good value. It's a very well made rifle for the money. The action is glass smooth, and unlike most of the less expensive synthetic stocked rifles (including the Savage, IMO) the stock is solid, sleek and very well finished. It only has one faint mold line that runs the bottom length of the stock along the centerline. The trigger is also easily adjustable, and is the crispest conventional single-stage trigger I've encountered on a factory rifle for less than $800, with the exception of the Accu-Trigger which is comparable if not slightly better.

Mike

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I'm a Remington fan. $ for $, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better rifle. The triggers are terrific and easy to adjust (or have adjusted) and I've never owned a bad Remington. Like everyone has said, find the rifle that fits YOU the best. As far as the .300 goes, it's a great do everything round. Good Luck

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I have one of each a Ruger m-77 mk 2 sporter in 300 win.mag and A Remington 700 BDL SS in 7mm rem. mag my personal favorite is the Ruger because they come with rings the bases are integral [less screws to come loose] they have controlled round feeding and they are really cool looking imo . they both have nasty triggers but the Ruger is 125.00 --150.00 cheaper around here they are both high quality rifles I just prefer Ruger's I hope this helps chad

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Another CRF, 3 postion safety gun to consider is CZ. They have a reputation for well made rifles at a competive price.

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WOW i was kinda suprised winchester never was mentioned. I really like winchester fire arms myself that is something to look at. THey are great reliable guns with adjustabe triggers out of the box.
I can not believe someone suggested you buy a Savage. You could not give me one of them.
Also look at weatherby great guns but more expensive.

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Why? Have you ever shot one? Not too pretty to look at, but well put together and really darn accurate for the price. I have yet to see a Savage that didn't shoot well.

I, for one, wouldn't buy a Weatherby MkV (price vs. value). I'd buy the Vanguard, though. If I wanted to dump that kind of cash ($1200) on a rifle, it'd be a Sako I'd walk out of the store with. Now that's a nice rifle.

Mike

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LOL I guess to each his own..but I havent seen a Savage yet that wasnt a good shooter.

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Ya know most custom rifles are built on remington actions, kinda says something. I only buy remington rifles except for my AR-15. I have the exact rifle you asked about the 700 LSS in 300 Win. I like the gun especially the stock, shoots OK. I like the feel of remington and it fits better than any others, still working on a load so the best group I've got is 2 inch at 100 yards, once I deceide on a bullet I'll work on accuricy, my 308. ADL shoots on top of each other so I will have it shooting.

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Wow, guess everyone has his/her favorites and will stick with them till the end, that's cool though. Thanks for all the info and advice! I am going to get the Remington this week, too hard to pass up this deal! Let me know what you work up for your rifle crimedog as I will be into the reloading scene as well. Started reloading when I was about ten with my parents, but it's been a few years since i've done it but still have all the gear except dies. Looking at the RCBS X-dies for this round (die-hard RCBS fan...nothing but good luck with their equipment to this point) Thanks Again!:D
Para_packer

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Been using 77.1 RL-22 with a 165 Nosler B-Tip but not happy with bullet performance or accuracy. Although pricey I plan on trying swift scirraco, barnes, and trophy bonded, anything as long as it's in 165-168 Grains.

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Look at the Weatherby Vanguard in 300 or a new Savage with the Accu-trigger. The Vanguard will be under $400 and comes with an accuracy guarantee. I think the Vanguard is better than the Remington. If you can stand the look of the Savage they are great. The trigger is easily adjustable and they are known for there accuracy. Also, the Savage's with composite stocks com with dual pillar bedding. THis is a nice attribute for a rifle that aides in enhancing accuracy.

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There are obviously a lot of good rifles out there - and the fact that the Remington 700 dominates the competetive shooting field as well the sniper rifle arena is not a small coincidence, IMO. I do wonder about the choice of caliber, though. The number of folks who can shoot a 300 Win. Mag without flinching are in the minority. Great caliber, but about 50% above most shooter's tolerance for recoil. And, unless you need to shoot beyond 400 yards, the 30/06 is perfectly adequate.

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Variety is the spice of life....If you can shoot it, and it's legal, and you like it, have a ball!

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I guess one more guy whos never shot a savage, but wants to pass judgement on them!!! Lets recap......I own 2 Savages that shoot under an inch. I tried to reload a Weatherby ($1200 accumark) and under no circumstances (reloads or factories) could 2" groups be obtained! That is personal experience with BOTH!!! You coulnt give me another Weatherby!!!!

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And from what I've heard, trying to lap the lugs and recessed to true-up a Mk V standard (6 lug) action is a trick, and getting the 9 lug magnum version to bear on all lugs evenly is a real PITA and probably very expensive. Two and even three lug actions aren't nearly the work. I guess I'll find out when I get out to school, but that's what I've had other 'smiths tell me. So, basically, if your Mk V isn't square-to-the-world and it's accuracy sucks because of it, you might spend less money to buy a Savage than trying to have the action blueprinted and trued up. Ain't that a real kick in the crotch for a poor sap who saved months to drop $1200 on a rifle. Better off, for that money, buying a Sako.

Mike