remington's 3" accuracy guaranty
 

For those of you considering a purchase of the "most accurate out of the box rifle" you ought to know that remington won't even consider a repair if groups are less than 3." I've spent more than a year working up loads and trying different factory ammo and it shoots 3 shot 21/2" to 4" groups--I mean patterns. Remington customer service actually suggested to me that that was more than enough accuracy. Unless you want to keep your local gunsmith busy, better stear clear of big green if 3" groups are not acceptable to you!

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I have had my problems with Remingtons in the past but accuracy has never ever been an issue.Sounds like a bad barrel to me or some other problem like maybe a lug not sitting right. I would send it back to them anyway to look it over and tell them that other brands . In fact if I had to pick one brand with the worst groups it would easily be Winchester who by the way has no accuracy guarantee as well.

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Big green suggested to me when I was getting 2" groups that that was unacceptable. I sent the gun back twice and it didn't appear they did anything to it other than confiscate my 2.5lb trigger and try to charge me for another one.

I have never seen problems as bad as yours with alot of 700's. Hate to hear that.

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I am not sure if there is a lemon law for gun makers.
But i have heard of all gun makers having put out guns that don't group great. you know buying any gun is kind of gamble of how well will it shoot.

I wouldnt give up just yet. oldelkhunter may be right you could just need to tighten up the stock to action fit.

I have never had this problem with a remington and i have alot of them. and i have talked to some pretty cranky yankees at remington but i have also talked to some good ones also.

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In North Carolina?

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New York!

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Try bedding the action, and free floating the barrel. That's done the trick on a few rifles
I've had - including Remington, Ruger, and two Winchesters.

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Remingtons headquarters are now in NC.

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well i guess that shows how long it's been since i deal't with remingtons customer service.

But bigcountry just to be fair i am sure there are some cranky rebel:D southerners in s carolina also!

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I have owned several 700's and have worked up loads for about a dozen more and all would group better than 1-1/2" with most grouping 1" or better with handloads.As a result,I have never had to deal with Remington on any warranty issues.

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What Model???? because if its a model 710 aka economy throw around, good enough for hunting and thats about it gun. I really wouldnt complain, for that model 3" at 100 yards is acceptable especially for hunting........

I have a M700 Mountain Rifle BDL in 308 win. With remington express core lokts I get .5" to 1" at 100 yards. with my handloads I get nothing more then .5" at 100 yards.

something tells me its the shooter not the gun......................... unless its a 710

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on second thought it could very well be your reloads, what kind of equipment are you using and what kind of technique do you use???

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I was originally assuming that the rifle was a 700.I have seen several remington semi auto's that shot patterns instead of groups.

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HighDesertWolf

It is my boy's youth model 700ADL in 7mm-08. FYI, when I do my range work, I bring 3-4 rifles at a time to give barrels a chance to cool. During the time I've been working with this rifle, I've been fine tuning my own hunting rifles. I've got a Sako 7mm STW, a 340wby and and 300wby all shooting 1/2MOA with different loads, both factory and homerolled. I don't believe the problem with the boy's rifle is my shooting unless it is the slow velocity or the lack of recoil!:D

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It is the synthetic stock rifle, and yes, I repeatedly checked tension on the action screws. I've sent it out to have the action bedded and the barrel recrowned as that was the gunsmith's suggestion at this point. We'll see what happens.

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You know in manufactures defense, can you imagine the guys that send back guns, that go to the range with whatever is on sale at Dicks sporting, fire off 10 rounds in a row. Guns red hot, and load up and do it again. Expect little cloverleafes at 100 yards.

Or the ones that use Hoppes nitro cleaner and puts 100 rounds thru the bore without removing any copper.

Thats the reason in my companies products we have margin built in. Our product 95% of the time works much better than our specs, but due to test equipment variations, and mostly operator error not properly cleaning thier optics, we have to build in crazy margins.

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About a year ago I had a 700 mountain rifle(synthetic stock) in 7-08. I took it to the range and it shot fine not great but fine 1 - 1 1/2 in groups with 140 grain factory corelockts. It had the pencil barrel which I will never purchase again. I sold the rifle to a guy who called me a few weeks later after the inspection period expired and he is telling me it is shooting 6" groups at 100. he was really pissed at me I could tell. He was shooting handloads. I suggested he try factory corelockts and I never got a call back from him after that. I am thinking maybe that soda straw pencil barrel is very temperamental. I would call Remington and escalate it big time and it can be done and get that barrel replaced if your shooting groups like that. Tightening screws will account for a fraction of an inch difference at best . There is something fundamentally wrong with either the barrel , a locking lug is not seatiedright or the action to stock fit is not right. This is not rocket science. Don't screw with the gun get it back to Remington and let them make it right.

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I haven't had any accuracy problems with the 700 BDL's I have owned and my CS contact with them has only been twice each time they made good.

Best of luck.

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LOL sounds like you have your game together.:D