Need some help pals
 

Im thinkin about getting a larger deer rifle for Distance shots... what would you suggest me buying? and i dont really have a price range, but it has to be reasonable.. lol

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270win will always reach out and touch em. You got the WSM's also.

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7mm ,any of the various .300's or maybe .257 weatherby,it's now avalible in their low priced Vanguard series.

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25.06 with the right bullets is good out to 400 yards. Also many other rounds that are flat shooting and good to the same distance with some holding thier energy to further distances. First you sound determine the furthest distance you would likely need than study the ballistic tables for bullet drop & retained energy at that range. Also you might want to keep in mind that you may also want the rifle to do double duty on larger or smaller game and choose a caliber that is capable to also suit this need.

Best Wishes

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Don't know what you mean by distance shots . . . or what you intend. Most deer, even here in the Rockies are shot at less than a hundred yards . . . certainly less than 200 yards. I think you need to be careful about approaching this subject . . . and you need to practice practice practice . . . until you KNOW you can do what you want to do. Some guys think that because they own a long-distance "Louden-Boomer" they are suddenly "long-distance shooters."

Well, enough preaching . . . on to the rifles . . . I think the 7mm Remington Magnum may be your best choice . . . although you can't sneeze at the .30-06 or .270 . . . assuming deer or antelope is your game. A .270 or 7mm Mag in well-trained hands will do the job. The 7mm STW is a superb long-range chambering, but it will knock the "snot" out of you . . . :( . . . same for the 7mm RUM.

A point to ponder . . . I have never shot a deer over a hundred yards . . . I probably wouldn't either . . . I can always get closer or wait till another day for that good shot.

There are as many opinions as there are people on this subject :eek:

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I would go with a Ruger M77 Mk II, it is very hard to beat a Ruger for the money. I have the 77 all weather in 300 WSM and It will shoot a .6" group with my hand loads. I would recommend that you get a 30-06 because it has the largest bullet range on the market (55gr to 250gr) and factory ammo is cheaper than most other calibers and it can be found in any small sporting goods shop in the country, in case you go on a trip and forget your ammo. The 30-06 will kill anything on the planet out to 300 yards. If you do decide to go with a magnum the 300 WSM can be handloaded faster than the 270 and 7mm short mags and Weatherby mags with the same bullet weight, but I am am not sure about factor ammo so you should check on it.

If I could only have one rifle it would be a Stainless Ruger 77 in 30-06.

I would stay away from the 7mm RUM because last I knew Remington only loades one bullet for it (140gr B-tip, I think).

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When you say larger, it sortof makes me ask:"larger than what?" as far as a rifle that can easily take down a whitetail, or a mule deer...I would have to say 30-06. It is an excellent all-around caliber...you can hunt antelope to elk with it, depending upon what load you chamber in it. I used to have a 7mm mauser that would hit the gong at 1000 yds everytime with open sights(2'x2' square steel plate) that was fun to shoot, but it hurt like a B**** after the third or fourth round, the recoil was tremendous. I never took that gun hunting, because I was always afraid the fear of the recoil would make me flinch right before I fired at an animal...funny, I never actually flinched like that at the range..For all around hunting of big game..I would say 30-06...except for moose, and bear...I'd go larger for these animals. Good-Luck.

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Trgams,

Was the 7x57mm Mauser in an actual Mauser 98 rifle with a metal buttplate? I only ask because you say it was a bad kicker compared to your 30-06, when in fact the 30-06 handily outperforms the 7x57mm Mauser in every comparable bullet weight. I can only think that the recoil FELT worse due to differences in stock design or rifle weight, because the 7mm Mauser isn't know to be a bruiser.

Mike

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I just bought a 7mm STW that would fit the bill as an excellent long range big game rifle. It's a bit on the "loudenboomer" side, but it's not too bad. I handload to I can tailor the loads to my needs, and at $1099 for both the Sako 75 rifle WITH the Nikon Monarch UCC 3.5-10x50 scope, it was a deal that I just couldn't pass up. The standard 7mm Rem Mag would also be an excellent choice for a "long range" rifle. I think that the 7mm bullet is a very well balanced caliber for combining long range ballistic efficiency with reasonable bullet weights that will still make a nice big deep hole at extended ranges. The .277 bullets of the .270's also fit with this category. A .270Win or .270WSM would all work well. If you handload or can spend big money on factory ammo, the .270 Weatherby Mag is a GREAT performer too.

Mike

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I would have to agree with bigcountry. I’m also looking at a rifle with mild recoil and able to shoot up to 400 yards and the 270 Win and the 270WSM will do the job just fine.