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Old 02-27-2019, 08:06 PM
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Yes, an instructor is free to limit what is allowed in their classes, and should. A poor performing pistol takes up allot of time from teaching when an instructor has to stop range time to deal with a problem pistol.

Again, I've never heard of a range not allowing a hi point.

I'd be interested in getting a phone number for a few of these ranges so that I can call them and talk to them about this and see what they've experienced that led to that decision.
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Old 03-06-2019, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hunters_life
Almost every range (indoor) I have been too do not allow Hipoint handguns on the range. There has to be a reason for that other than rumor.
Seems to me that "a lot of ranges" are mis-informed on Hi-Point pistols. True they are butt ugly. But they are a simple design and IMO are pretty reliable. Let's put it this way I'd rather have a HiPoint pistol than no pistol at all.
I mean look at Taurus. A lot of guys call them junk too. I have 3 Taurus pistols and 2 revolvers and never once has any failed for any reason at all.
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Old 03-06-2019, 04:07 PM
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Has anyone else heard of ranges banning them? Not classes, but actual ranges?

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Old 03-07-2019, 11:59 AM
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I absolutely love my 9mm carbine. 1000's of rounds through it without any jams or misfires. Just as accurate as any other high priced 9mm carbine.

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Old 04-09-2019, 10:47 AM
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I totally forgot about this thread until I was doing some research today on the current banned semi's in Cook county for a buddy and discovered why they are banned in every range around here. They aren't even sold here in Illinois or I haven't seen one in a case at any of the gun shops I frequent. IL has a melting point law and Hipoint doesn't meet the requirements.

(720 ILCS 5/24-3) (from Ch. 38, par. 24-3)
Sec. 24-3. Unlawful sale or delivery of firearms.
(A) A person commits the offense of unlawful sale or delivery of firearms when he or she knowingly does any of the following:

(h) While holding any license as a dealer, importer,
manufacturer or pawnbroker under the federal Gun Control
Act of 1968, manufactures, sells or delivers to any
unlicensed person a handgun having a barrel, slide, frame
or receiver which is a die casting of zinc alloy or any
other nonhomogeneous metal which will melt or deform at a
temperature of less than 800 degrees Fahrenheit. For
purposes of this paragraph, (1) “firearm” is defined as in
the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act; and (2)
“handgun” is defined as a firearm designed to be held and
fired by the use of a single hand, and includes a
combination of parts from which such a firearm can be
assembled.
For some reason I can't find why polymer firearms aren't in this. Because polymers certainly have a melting point lower than 800f. But that is the reason they aren't allowed in the ranges around here. It was also known as the "Saturday night special" law.
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Old 04-09-2019, 03:08 PM
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Because the law calls out zinc alloys and other non-homogeneous metals, and nothing else.
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