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Iron Ranger 12-13-2017 02:49 PM

270 reduced recoil shells?
 
I hope I get here. My father is 71 an is still shooting his 300 win mag. I have never seen him miss or miss hit a deer. 2 years ago he missed and this yr he gut shot one and wounded one we never found. He is flinching due to the gun, I saw it on the range 2 yrs ago. I have a 270 but am wondering if these reduced recoil shells are good. I am also thinking of buying a 7mm-08 or similar caliber, thoughts? The more guns the better, right? We hunt northern MN whitetail under 200yrd shots. Thanks

Ridge Runner 12-13-2017 03:30 PM

a 270 with a full power 130 gr has no where near the recoil of a 300 winny, I use to use the rem. 100 gr factory loads for deer with good success not sure how it would do on mn deer.
RR

SilverbulletM70 12-14-2017 09:51 AM

6.5 is hard to beat if you're only looking for a low recoil whitetail round. The 7mm-08 is pretty friendly too but it can have a bit of a "sharp" recoil in short barreled youth sized rifles. I have one my wife and little one shoot and that small one hits the shoulder like a 30-06 vs my 22" barrel full size stocked 7-08's.

Darn near anything will be less than that 300 mag though of course.lol Good for your dad though still shouldering that sucker!

bpd1982 12-14-2017 12:26 PM

Several companies produce reduced recoil ammo that will work well for deer.

https://www.remington.com/ammunition...managed-recoil

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/custom-lite

All of the lite ammo works well on deer. I downloaded a 30-06 for my daughter for recoil reduction. If looking for a diff. caliber 243, 260, 6.5 credmoor, 7-08 or even the good old 30-30 kill deer with out much recoil.

hunters_life 12-14-2017 02:54 PM

Instead of buying another rifle, not that there is anything bad about that, maybe you should look into a mechanical recoil decelerator. Limbsaver pads are great but from what you are describing it just wouldn't be enough. If you reloaded, you could always load the .300wm down quite a bit, safely to .30-06 levels or a bit lower, but if you are looking to reduce even .270 then that wouldn't work either. Gracoil mech. reducers work well and if you have some basic wood working skills they aren't hard to install yourself. If your dad has been using that particular rifle for a lot of years, he would more than likely rather find a way to continue with it so finding a way to reduce recoil and curing his flinch would make him the happiest.

Bocajnala 12-15-2017 03:09 AM

When my wife first hunted with me, I bought two boxes of Federal Fusion 145 grain reduced recoil. After a few practice sessions I decided she didn't need them and went to just standard loads. I still have a full box left I'll save for the kids here in a few years.

There was noticeably less recoil. They shot great out of my rifle, although I only shot them to 150 yards. I never shot a deer with them so I have no idea of on game performance. Maybe one of these years I'll shoot a doe with them just to see.

Here's a link. Currently sold out though.

I think if he just went to standard loads that he'd be fine though. A .270 has WAY less recoil than what he is used to.


https://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...unds?a=1593846

-Jake

Iron Ranger 12-15-2017 03:46 AM

Thanks Guys, I am just a little skeptical of the reduced recoil shells. The hard part is talking him into the fact he is getting old. Thanks again.

salukipv1 12-15-2017 07:09 PM

try reduced power loads....
and/or 130grain loads should kick less than 150gr loads.

or yes buy him a .243win... or 7mm-08 w/120gr bullets.

or 6.5 creedmoor...

Ridge Runner 12-16-2017 04:10 AM

learn to reload, lots of light bullets for the 270, don't make much recoil, you have not listed where you live, but I hunted our smaller whitetails here in wv for years using a hornady 110 gr hp, there is now a nosler 110 gr accubond available which would be fine for any whitetail/muley that walks, if your not hunting the northern giants rem. and win. both use to load a 110 gr soft point which I have used to take many deer with.
RR

Big Uncle 12-16-2017 05:04 AM

The published charts are odd, but it looks like the reduced recoil choice would turn your father's 300 Win Mag into a 308 Win. A mild load in a 308 Win will cleanly take any deer.

If the published velocity is anywhere near correct then the reduced recoil choice would produce a fine deer rifle without changing anything but the ammunition for your father. I imagine it would be a hard pill to swallow if someone told a fellow that he was getting too old for his trusted rifle.

Ridge Runner 12-16-2017 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Iron Ranger (Post 4322966)
Thanks Guys, I am just a little skeptical of the reduced recoil shells. The hard part is talking him into the fact he is getting old. Thanks again.

hey, this gettin old **** ain't for sissies! ask me how I know?
RR

MudderChuck 12-16-2017 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 4323008)
hey, this gettin old **** ain't for sissies! ask me how I know?
RR

Ain't that the truth, my 7mm Mag has been collecting dust for years. The last time I shot it from the prone position I said to myself "this sucker kills in front and cripples behind". I left that session with a hand sized bruise on my shoulder and I said never again.

A semi auto does a lot to mitigate recoil. I've been thinking hard about a BAR in .308. My bolt rifle in .308 doesn't really kick that hard, but it is really heavy.

Ridge Runner 12-17-2017 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by MudderChuck (Post 4323017)
Ain't that the truth, my 7mm Mag has been collecting dust for years. The last time I shot it from the prone position I said to myself "this sucker kills in front and cripples behind". I left that session with a hand sized bruise on my shoulder and I said never again.

A semi auto does a lot to mitigate recoil. I've been thinking hard about a BAR in .308. My bolt rifle in .308 doesn't really kick that hard, but it is really heavy.

a good pad (pachmeyer decelerator or a SVL) will cut felt recoil 50%, take note though the SVL pads react to the carpet in gun safes, so ya gotta shave them occasionally. a break will make recoil negligible but its loud!
RR

Bocajnala 12-18-2017 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Big Uncle (Post 4323007)
The published charts are odd, but it looks like the reduced recoil choice would turn your father's 300 Win Mag into a 308 Win. A mild load in a 308 Win will cleanly take any deer.

If the published velocity is anywhere near correct then the reduced recoil choice would produce a fine deer rifle without changing anything but the ammunition for your father. I imagine it would be a hard pill to swallow if someone told a fellow that he was getting too old for his trusted rifle.

That's a good point. Might be worth getting a box and shooting to see. If he could keep using his same rifle, with less recoil, it might make him happy.

My grandfather always said "getting old isn't for the weak"

-Jake

Ridge Runner 12-18-2017 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Bocajnala (Post 4323165)
My grandfather always said "getting old isn't for the weak"

-Jake

He was exactly right, it ain't for sissies!
RR

BarnesX.308 12-19-2017 10:15 AM

How about a break on the Winnie? My dad got a muzzle break on his 7mm Rem Mag. He is 87 and still shoots it. He got a nice buck last year.


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