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Henry Single Shot Rifles
I've been shooting a H&R Ultra 20 ga. for years with a Burris 2.75X EER scope, and I love it. I got it in my head to find a single shot centerfire rifle big enough to hunt deer and black bear with. H&R doesn't look like the same company today that it was when I bought the 20ga, so unless somebody knows something I don't, I am not going to deal with them. Ruger 1's and Brownings are out of my price range, and then I read about the Henry.
It comes in 308 which would do what I want, but I would love to hear from someone that has bought one. Thanks for your time. |
I have thought about 45-70 single shot. Pick the caliber you want. Not sure company status.
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I like them but lets be realistic. A CVA Scout V2 is stainless with a 22" barrel plus muzzle brake (For some models)for a couple bucks less. . You can get camo/black stocks in both TH and standard for additional cost. They even have youth stocks.
CVA Hunter in blued has a 25" barrel and can be found for around $250 and sometimes less. Both are available in 45/70 btw if you are looking for a cheap thumper. |
If I was ever to buy a single shot rifle, it would be a Ruger # 1, even if I had to save for a year or so to buy one. They are well made, shoot well and hold their value if taken care of.
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single shot 45-70 with peep or iron sights would be a nice atv or bounce around in truck rifle.
For 45-70, not sure I want to shoot Ruger 1 loads. I hunt close range, so #1, may not do me much good. Though the triggers on some of the singles are stiff. As is my new marlin 1895. Wish they would do some modern triggers at the factory. |
CVA used to make a Apex lineup of single shots. A few are still around. All stainless and adjustable triggers which are pretty nice actually. They were selling for around $550 very recently. Breach diameter was also a beefy 1.1". Thats larger than the T/C single shots.
I would be very interested in the new Henry though if they offered a 3-4" longer barrel 45/70 and if i knew the breach diameter was at least 1.1". BTW it appears the Henry single shots just started shipping this month so its unlikely you will find many reviews from actual owners. |
No experience with Henry's, but they do look like well built firearms.
If you're looking for a quality single shot and are willing to spend a little extra, I highly recommend looking into the Thompson/Center Encore platform. Even with factory offerings, you have many different calibers to choose from. |
It's on the cheaper side, but....
I've bought and messed around with several handi rifles this summer. All shot very well. One had an ejection issue, but I took it apart, cleaned it good, and had no problems after that. The only one I kept was a .243 and I kept it for shooting ground hogs out the back window primarily. But they were fun to play with. And the most I spent was $200 on a like new .243 with synthetic stock. I got others for as low as $125. Can't really beat that from a cost factor. But there are certainly better and nicer singles out there. One good thing about the handi rifles is they have a very large and loyal following online. So information, parts etc is very easily available through a few different forums. -Jake |
Are we all talking same thing? H&R is Harrington & Richardson, they make single shot rifles. Henry is known for lever action, and some pump 22s. Maybe they make singles. Dunno.
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Originally Posted by Gm54-120
(Post 4315857)
CVA used to make a Apex lineup of single shots. A few are still around. All stainless and adjustable triggers which are pretty nice actually. They were selling for around $550 very recently. Breach diameter was also a beefy 1.1". Thats larger than the T/C single shots.
nrs. At this point for me, hunting deep woods, a knock around rifle would be more handi. $550 is more than I would want to spend for that purpose. Maybe if for light weight rifle for humping bush. |
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/
I see Henry is make single shots. Never heard a bad thing about a Henry. Never heard a bad thing about a #1, but cant say the same thing for Ruger |
Originally Posted by Berserker
(Post 4315899)
Are we all talking same thing? H&R is Harrington & Richardson, they make single shot rifles. Henry is known for lever action, and some pump 22s. Maybe they make singles. Dunno.
We're all talking single shots. Various brands, and price ranges. With the H&R I was just throwing out a cheap alternative that I have had very good results with this summer playing around with. It ain't as pretty as a Ruger #1, or a Henry. But the handful I've played with have all shot good. A few of them exceptionally well. But they definitely don't look as good as the pricier options. Although the Henry has a very good price point in my opinion and from what I've found. -Jake |
Originally Posted by Berserker
(Post 4315900)
For me the reasons for a single shot would be a stout and accurate Ruger #1, or knock around gun, possibly weight for carrying. Though lots of light rifles out there.
At this point for me, hunting deep woods, a knock around rifle would be more handi. $550 is more than I would want to spend for that purpose. Maybe if for light weight rifle for humping bush. CVA Scout V2 is around $350 but previous year models can sometimes be found cheaper without the brake. Buds Gunshop has a nice selection of both and the model number for older models too. They have a Hunter Compact with cheap scope in 7mm-08 for under $250 ![]() Their 45/70s can be modified into a dandy little smokeless muzzleloader that can easily shoot a 275gr bullet over 2300fps. |
I've owned Ruger #1s and a H&R Handi rifle. The #1 was in 405 win and the H&R in .223. Both shot very well. The only single shot I have now is a Pedersoli Sharps replica in .45-70. That too us a shooter though not as good as the other 2.
I was looking at the Henry's too when I first saw them in the catalog. IMO if your budget doesn't allow for a Ruger #1 then I'd opt for the CVA. What I personally would like would be a .45-70 double rifle (SxS). But not the Remington/Baikal. Those were really crappy. |
Originally Posted by Berserker
(Post 4315903)
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/
I see Henry is make single shots. Never heard a bad thing about a Henry. Never heard a bad thing about a #1, but cant say the same thing for Ruger
Originally Posted by Bocajnala
(Post 4315906)
We're all talking single shots. Various brands, and price ranges.
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If Henry made that single shot in a 405Win i would be all over it. :D Ive always wanted a 405 but im not paying the crazy prices ive seen.
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Originally Posted by Berserker
(Post 4315903)
Never heard a bad thing about a #1, but cant say the same thing for Ruger
If you haven't heard bad things about a Henry or No.1, you have had your fingers stuck in your ears. |
Originally Posted by Berserker
(Post 4315903)
I see Henry is make single shots. Never heard a bad thing about a Henry. Never heard a bad thing about a #1, but cant say the same thing for Ruger
Originally Posted by Nomercy448
(Post 4315919)
You do realize Ruger MAKES the No.1, right?
If you haven't heard bad things about a Henry or No.1, you have had your fingers stuck in your ears. No, I havn't heard anything bad about Henry. I don't follow them really close, but not my first time on a gun forum. I just did't like the balance of their 45-70 compared to my Marlin. Also I think their blueing is awful. Looks like paint. I would be ok, if it were cheaper. Not a big fan of gold, unless I was doign iron sights, and wanted to be somewhat historical. I need to check on the square I bought for a Henry, now that you mention it. |
got 2 #1's, paid 650 bucks each for them in '92 don't shoot like the price should warrant, triggers suk, will never buy another my RRA Varminter will shoot circles around my #1V.
RR |
Surveyor527,
Take a look at the TCR'83 or '87. They don't make them anymore, however, they can still be found for a good price. The 83 even has a set trigger. I love mine. I've had it for years. Even with its long barrels thw overall length is short as its a break open action. I have a .223, .243, and a .338. Awesome! Just a suggestion! |
No. 1's are famous for being beautiful rifles, in which the beauty only runs skin deep. The two piece stock design and the forend hanger are one issue. The truth of the receiver and barrel shoulder, combined with the slop in the falling block mechanism are another. Great rifles, don't get me wrong, but in their day, Steven's 200's would shoot groups fully inside those printed by No.1's, for about 1/3 of the cost. Today, base model Savage 12 FCV/FV's can be had for 1/4-1/5 the cost of a No.1, and shoot far better.
As Ridge Runner mentioned, it doesn't take much for an AR off of the rack to out shoot a No.1. I accumulated No.1's and No.3's for a time, not even the No.1V's earned what I'd class as "accurate," especially for the price point. Accurate enough? Sure. Accurate? Not really. Henry's have a few polished models, but overall, they've never been famous for high standards for precision nor polish. Marlin going out of business and getting revamped by Rem/Freedom/Cerberus and Winchester also going under and repurposing the 94's into all foreign manufacture (at HIGH price points) were the best things which ever happened to Henry. They too make good enough rifles, but they're overall ungainly in design, and not particularly well finished - but looking good against their current competition isn't exactly a high bar either, so they're selling better now than they have in the last century. Is there really a well built single shot on the market today which both shoots good AND has a worthy fit and finish? Eh, probably not, and certainly not in the price class of the Henry's. It's just not a high demand market. |
Originally Posted by Nomercy448
(Post 4315959)
Is there really a well built single shot on the market today which both shoots good AND has a worthy fit and finish? Eh, probably not, and certainly not in the price class of the Henry's. It's just not a high demand market.
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my number 1V 22-250 will shoot an average 1.585" at 250 yards with a meticulously worked up handload, that's just acceptable, far from good, the forend has been floated, trigger is hopeless without serious machine work. My RRA will run an inch with cheap reman soft point ammo, and cost less in todays dollars.
RR |
For a few years now, i have hunted with this single shot 6.5 BR magnum. It is a nicely built rifle. Fit and finish is good. Trigger is wonderful. Accuracy beats any AR i have owned. Half moa at 200 yard is not unusual. It is light, and compact. For hunting it is about perfect. Barrel is heavy like a target barrel, but the over all rifle is light, and short. Last season, an antelope dropped like a rock over 300 yard out, and a deer at around 175 yard fell out of my view, right now. 30-30 brass is easy form in two steps, and trim to length, then fire form. Shoulder is pushed a way forward. Recoil is nil. Sweet. ☺
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For a few years now, i have hunted with this single shot 6.5 BR magnum. It is a nicely built rifle. Fit and finish is good. Trigger is wonderful. Accuracy beats any AR i have owned. Half moa at 200 yard is not unusual. It is light, and compact. For hunting it is about perfect. Barrel is heavy like a target barrel, but the over all rifle is light, and short. Last season, an antelope dropped like a rock over 300 yard out, and a deer at around 175 yard fell out of my view, right now. 30-30 brass is easy form in two steps, and trim to length, then fire form. Shoulder is pushed a way forward. Recoil is nil. Sweet. ☺
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
(Post 4315924)
got 2 #1's, paid 650 bucks each for them in '92 don't shoot like the price should warrant, triggers suk, will never buy another my RRA Varminter will shoot circles around my #1V.
RR |
It was the model. Ruger triggers are heavy, especially so in the 90's and 2000's, and the Ruger No.1's were not immune. Even the earlier models were heavier than any of the "Savage style" triggers you'll see on the market today, and heavier than the XMP Remingtons. Ruger has a history of positive sear geometry, which is incredibly safe, but makes for a very heavy trigger. And of course, $650 in 1992 is $1150 today, which is about on par with what some No.1's were listed in their last years. You could buy a less expensive, more accurate rifle with a better trigger when the No.1's were in production, and you remain to be able to do so today.
It wasn't just Ridge's one rifle - it was the No.1's as a whole. They're absolutely sexy rifles, and they balance and feel a lot more like a bolt action than some of the other break action single shots on the market (albeit the No.1's are very heavy) - because a lot of the break action rifles are rather minimalistic. I only have one No.1 left, and if my wife didn't like it so much, I wouldn't have it. I do wish I still had one of the International's with the full length stock in 7maus or 6.5 swede left, but I sold the dozen I had of the Internationals as a set, and made a killing on my investment back in 2010. |
Originally Posted by ronlaughlin
(Post 4316032)
For a few years now, i have hunted with this single shot 6.5 BR magnum. It is a nicely built rifle. Fit and finish is good. Trigger is wonderful. Accuracy beats any AR i have owned. Half moa at 200 yard is not unusual. It is light, and compact. For hunting it is about perfect. Barrel is heavy like a target barrel, but the over all rifle is light, and short. Last season, an antelope dropped like a rock over 300 yard out, and a deer at around 175 yard fell out of my view, right now. 30-30 brass is easy form in two steps, and trim to length, then fire form. Shoulder is pushed a way forward. Recoil is nil. Sweet. ☺
RR |
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You don't think 2650 fps 120 grain Nosler is a magnum? :D With a cds dial it is good for 400 yard kill. Wonder who gave it the magnum moniker? ☺ __ |
Im rather fond of that 97D rifle but the price is more than i could afford.
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Yes, i thought the price was steep before it was increased $700. However it is a sweet rifle, albeit seemingly expensive; won't be buying anymore. ☺
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Originally Posted by ronlaughlin
(Post 4316317)
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You don't think 2650 fps 120 grain Nosler is a magnum? :D With a cds dial it is good for 400 yard kill. Wonder who gave it the magnum moniker? ☺ __ |
That's nuthin'. My 6.5-06 shoots the 120g Nosler at 3300 fps.
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my 6.5 Gibbs runs a 140 at 3280 fps (270 win. parent case), my 7mm Allen magnum runs a 160 at 3700 fps.
RR |
That's nuthin'.................
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I just received mine from Henry Repeating Arms.
I need to amass 10 posts before I can post my video review. |
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