Marlin XS7S or the TC Venture?
 

Help me out I am getting a new rifle in 7mm-08 toss up between the Marlin and Thompson Center who swears by there new 5 groove rifling and match grade crown to shoot 1inch groups at 100 yrds! I think I am talking myself into a new TC Vevture..lol

.......and maybe with good reason.


http://www.tcarms.com/technology/5r_rifling.php

http://www.tcarms.com/technology/minute_of_angle.php




I think it might be better built also.

For the price the Marlins are hard to beat. However with the rebate the Venture is also a good deal....and is probably the better built rifle.

im not trying to stir the pot but hows the trigger on the venture?ive read about it and like what i read,life time warrenty makes a big difference to me

The Venture I tried in the store felt good and very similar to the Icon. Lot of gun for the money IMO.

To each his own here, but I just got a Marlin and love it. If you hadn't check out my thread. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/firearm-review-forum/329990-marlin-xs7-308-win-range-report-photos.html

I didn't directly compare the Venture to it, so I can't help there, but will say the Marlin is a good weapon for the money in my opinion.

I have a Venture in .243 and it's a fabulous shooter. The trigger is excellent. I don't have a scale, but it's fairly light and crisp. They're user adjustable. I've heard great things about the Marlin as well, but haven't shot one. With the rebate the two aren't much different in price, plus the Venture is guaranteed to shoot 1 MOA.

I have a XL7 in 270 win.
And have a 25-06, 30-06,308,6.5x55,6-06,22-243 barrels to switch on it.
Can you do that with your thompson with out paying a gunsmith.

What is the advantage to having a half dozen barrels for your marlin? As cheap as the rifles are, it seems like it would make more sense to buy a half dozen rifles if you want to shoot all those calibers. You'd still have to re sight the rifle after each barrel swap, so you can't just hunt with a .243 one day and a 30-06 the next (unless you have a place to shoot handy).

your right but tell me where you can buy another rifle for $50.00 like I do the barrels. and I live in the country and shoot out the window from my reload room any time I want.
your half a dozen rifles cost $1,800.00
my 6 barrels are just $300.00
you can throw away $1,500.00 all you want.
I'll stick to my way $1,500.00 will buy a lot of bullets and powder.

Where are you getting $50 barrels from? That's a steal.

now you see my reasoning ?
just serch the net for
take off barrels

okie2, my son wants to do the same thing with his XS7. he wants to change it from a 308 to a 260. do you have any problems when you change out the barrels.

none what so ever.
Just make sure the head space is set right on the new barrel.
look on the different gun web sites for new or used take off barrels
you can find them as low as $40.00 some times.
you can use Savage barrels too.
Do you reload?

Thanks for the info. Yes, I do reload. I primarily reload for my 338-06 and 280 but I have found a factory load that my 280 likes so I don't load for it to much anymore.

Tell me what weight bullets you are shooting
338-06---?
280---?
I will send you an accurate load for both of them.

I normally load the 338-06 with 210 Nosler Partitions but have had good results with four different 200gr bullets.

My 280 seems to favor 140gr Nosler BT's, it also shoots the 139gr Hornady Spire Points pretty accurately.

according to Nosler's new book the best powder for the 338-06 is
210 grain bullet AA3100 58.0 grains 2412 fps
the 280 is
140 grain bullet RL19 53.0 grains 2902 fps
I have found that if I load 1 grain up or down it makes it more accurate for me.

If it were me I would load the 338-06 with
180 gr bullet and N150 55.0 GR 2834 FPS
this is 400 fps faster than the 210 grain

To do that requires some modifications to the bolt face. These talk about how you have to modify the bolt face.
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForu...?topic=29350.0

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...Number=1298108

the only thing needed to do if you have a problem with head space is cut .020 off the breach end of barrel.
no need to do anything to the bolt.

They talk about that in the first thread there. Wouldn't cutting the barrel be the wrong thing to do? I've read what they say, but even before I did I had the same thoughts. It seems like if you cut the barrel off, you'd need to re chamber it as the chamber would now be too short. Or am I wrong here?

Yes you are wrong.
the reason for cutting the barrel is to make the chamber shorter
because the Marlin bolt head is deeper than the Savage bolt head.
All you are doing is to make the shell stick out of the barrel farther
so the barrel don't hit the bolt head before the shell does.
.020 is only the thickness of 4 pieces of paper.

But the whole cartridge is usually in the chamber. If it's sticking out, it seems like you'd be asking for a case head to explode. I guess I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like something I'd want to do. It seems like it's the bolt that needs to be .020" shorter so that the shell is fully supported in the chamber, not sticking out.

I think you don't know what .020 is.
you can cut off .020 off of your bolt and then see how much extractor you have left to pull the shell out after you fire it.

I do know what .020 is. While it's not much I just don't think cutting the chamber any shorter is something I'd attempt. If you want to do it though, go for it. It may not pose a problem, but it's not a risk I'm going to take. What sounds like the easiest thing here is to just use the Marlin barrels.

By cutting off the barrel that is making it the same as a Marlin barrel.
IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!
It is very hard to teach any one who don't listen.
It is plain to see you are not a gunsmith either or even a machinist.
This my last commit on this subject.

Nope I'm not a gunsmith or machinist. It may be a perfectly fine thing to do, and it may make it the same as the Marlin barrel. I'm not saying not to do it, I'm just saying I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it at least not until I heard from a lot more than one guy on an internet forum. That doesn't mean that you are wrong, as I will admit I don't know that much about it. I just linked to the threads I'd seen on what modifications were required to make the Savage barrels work. Other than what they have to say I have no idea what's required as I've never tried to put a Savage barrel on a Marlin.

I went with the Venture and couldn't be happier with it. I have customs and other production guns and the Venture was used more this year than any other. It's a quality gun at a reasonable price, even the stock is decent for the money. It's accurate with just about thing I put through it. I set out to buy a beater 30-06 to use in nasty areas and lend out if someone needs a rifle. The Marlin and Venture were the two I looked at as well, the Venture won hands down.