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New Caliber for whitetails
gunna get a new gun sooner or later this fall and was wondering what everyones input is on their prefered choice of caliber for whitetails. I was thinking along the lines of 25-06 or 270
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truthfully, either of those would be great ... a lot of guys argue one caliber over another but nearly anything between a .243 and .30 cal makes great deer medicine ... pick the one you like and have fun!
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+1 T-bird's comments.
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if all you are shooting is deer i would go with the 25-06 or even go down to a 243 to cut down on the recoil a little. both are super flat shooting and have plenty of knock down. If you are planing on long shots in high wind situations i would suggest a 270 or 7 mm. I think that 30 calibers are a little over kill espesially for whitetails. they are more suited for elk sized animals. what the other guys said is true though its all about personal preferance. when i lived in idaho everybody liked to carry around 300 ultras and stuff like that but i used a 7mm because its alot less recoil and cheaper to shoot.
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I like my .308 rifles. It will recoil less than your 270 or 25-06 you want, and it shoots a bigger bullet. It is a little slower so longer range trajectory is not as great but honestly, i have never shot at a deer past 100 yards before. If you intend to hunt over open fields that are massive, a flatter shooting cartridge may be up your alley. But with the .308, if you decide to ever go hunt an elk or black bear, the rifle will still be good for that. There is a lot of good factory ammo available for the .308. If you stepped down to like a .243, I would only use premium bullets like Partitions on deer then, and that will jack up ammo prices. But with a .308 you don't need those premium bullets to ensure penetration. I am a .30 caliber fan.
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For deer, what about a 7mm-08?
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Let's not forget about the 7mm/08... it's in the same class with those two, recoil, noise, expense and in every other category PLUS it allows just a little heavier bullet if you feel you may need it someday.......
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I'm with T-bird & B-N-B
.243 to .30 cal and "all" the features you like; most importantly, it feels perfect when you shoulder it ! |
Originally Posted by Mr Wasabi
(Post 3494708)
For deer, what about a 7mm-08?
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ahhh....so many choices
I guess when someone talks about a "whitetail deer rifle", I immediately have ".270 Winchester" jump into my head.
For deer sized game, a decently constructed 130gr. or 140gr. bullet out of ol' Jack's favorite caliber would be tough to beat. If I was hunting deer stands where a really compact rifle would be a big plus, I think I would be looking at a Rem. Model 7 or Ruger UltraLight in 7mm.-08 or .308. Guess you kinda' have to throw in the ol' .30-06....just because you have to. lol Just whitetails....no hogs, elk, black bear, ect...... Give me a .270 Win. |
It's like golf clubs, you have to have the right tool for the job. That being said preference is probably the biggest factor here. Where you hunt plays a role as well. Sure a 243, 25-06, 257, 260, 7mm 08 are all great deer rounds, but what if your in an area where you may encounter a big bear, I bet you'd be praying to have that 30 cal then.
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Originally Posted by thndrchiken
(Post 3495104)
It's like golf clubs, you have to have the right tool for the job. That being said preference is probably the biggest factor here. Where you hunt plays a role as well. Sure a 243, 25-06, 257, 260, 7mm 08 are all great deer rounds, but what if your in an area where you may encounter a big bear, I bet you'd be praying to have that 30 cal then.
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25, 28, and 30 cal bullets are my favorites. What you load 'em in is your choice.
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Originally Posted by ajstrider
(Post 3494658)
I like my .308 rifles. It will recoil less than your 270 or 25-06 you want...
A 25-06 shooting a 110 grain bullet at 3200 fps with 50 grains powder weighing 8 lbs (the extra 1/2 lb being from it being a long action with a 24" tube, which is typical of a 25-06, versus the short action and 22" bbl typical of 308 Win's) will generate 13.7 ft-lbs (about 22% less recoil). A 270 Win shooting a 130 grain bullet at 3000 fps with 50 grains of powder from an 8lb rifle creates 15.5 ft-lbs recoil (12% less than a 308). Just so we have the facts straight. As to the OP's question. My choice would be the .25-06 of the two. Decent priced ammo, good availability and selection, flat trajectory and more than enough to kill deer just about as far as most folks can hit them. The 270 would be a good choice, too. As would the .243 Win or 308 Winchester. I like the quarter bores, but my personal choice was the 257 Weatherby Mag, but I wouldn't recommend the 257 Wby unless you handload. Factory ammo is shockingly expensive. Mike |
Driftrider, that may be true, but imho a 270 has always had more felt recoil to me than my 308's have. And this has been with several different guns and loads over the years. But like I said, that is me. But then again I have shot a 7mm mag that didn't have anymore felt recoil than a 270 either. But to be back on topic, probably one of the best all around selections for deer would have to be a 308 just because of the many different rifles and ammo available.
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Originally Posted by Mr Wasabi
(Post 3494708)
For deer, what about a 7mm-08?
best of both worlds.. Necked down .308 with the kick of a .243 It would be my first choice.. brian |
tell us more...just whitetails? woods? open fields?
what do you have for whitetails already? .243win .240wby 6mm-284 6.5mm-284 .270win. .270wsm 7mm-08 .300wsm .257wby .338win.mag. |
.270 was built for that work
North to south & east to west It's the deer rifle that can go anywhere. |
Originally Posted by Camosteel
(Post 3495124)
If we are throwing bears into the equation then give me a 12ga. w/ slugs. Great deer round and a defensive round as well. :s4:
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12 ga slug is effective out to 100yds with the right combo of gun and bullet. But its definately not even in the same league for a deer cartridge as the 7mm-08, 270 win, 243 win, 30-06, etc. (I mention those 4 because those are the ones that I've had). I currently have a 44mag Marlin 1894, Ruger M77 in 270 win, and Rem 700 in 243 win. If you want a cartridge that will give you everything for a deer go with the 270, short, long, the 270 is a time prooven shot maker. And if you are concerned about recoil, remington makes a recoil manager shell that is comparable trajectory wise to a 130gr or 150gr standard load.
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7mm-08, 270, 30.06 or 308.. take your pick, they all work perfectly. Really comes down to if you want to hunt something bigger some day, ammo availiblity, and cost of ammo.
270, 30.06 cheap and EVERYWHERE 7mm-08 about $10 more for 20 rounds and can't find it all the time but it's becoming more popular 308 - about $3 more per 20 than 30.06 in my area and not as previlant as 270 and 30.06 at least around my parts. |
The .25-06 would be my vote. Great for any deer. I assume you have other rifles and are just adding to your battery. If this were not true, I would get a .30-06 and use this for deer hunting as well as elk hunting, moose hunting, etc.
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Originally Posted by thndrchiken
(Post 3496017)
And limited to an effective range of about 50- 75 yds.
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Id go with the 7mm-08
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Good deer gun lists get pretty long. It's fine to get a new gun but a couple questions I ask are: #1 What are your intentions - hunting situation, range, game, goal, etc. Question #2 is what do you have currently?
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I sure don't see a lot of factory loads to choose from in 7mm-08 though, that might be important if you buy ammo. It is a great round too. The .260 is also a great whitetail hunting round and it recoils even less than the 7mm-08. It is truly enjoyable to just shoot it all day long on the bench.
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Originally Posted by ajstrider
(Post 3497033)
I sure don't see a lot of factory loads to choose from in 7mm-08 though, that might be important if you buy ammo. It is a great round too. The .260 is also a great whitetail hunting round and it recoils even less than the 7mm-08. It is truly enjoyable to just shoot it all day long on the bench.
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Originally Posted by ajstrider
(Post 3497033)
I sure don't see a lot of factory loads to choose from in 7mm-08 though, that might be important if you buy ammo. It is a great round too. The .260 is also a great whitetail hunting round and it recoils even less than the 7mm-08. It is truly enjoyable to just shoot it all day long on the bench.
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