high point firearms
 

I was wondering if anyone here shot a high point handgun and whether you like the gun or not. I've been looking for a lower priced semi auto pistol to purchase once I turn 21. Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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If it's all you can afford, then it's all you can afford. However, you definitely get what you pay for. A friend purchased one of these in 9mm years ago for "home defense". Compared to my (yes, more expensive) beretta and my well-used S&W, the Hi-Point felt more like a club than a handgun. Nor did it shoot as well. "Point" was about all I could muster with it. Reliability was pretty low, too. It may havejust had a bad magazine, but I just wasn't impressed by it.

Definitely not a handgun I'd PREFER defending my family with, unless it were the only thing available (beats a stick, I suppose). I think you could pick up a used auto(Beretta, Smith, Glock, Springfield, maybe even a SIG)somewhere and likely still have a more reliable gun.

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PLEASE do yourself a favor and save until you can afford a quality made handgun! Most of them seem to work ok for what they are. Just be aware they are made of cast zinc (slide), and plastic frame. That places all the weight on the top end-exaggerating recoil. Pick up an good used handgun instead, and for not much more money.

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+1

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Go toyour localrange and talk to the RO. See if they are willing for you to try different calibers from different manufacturers. I strongly suggest that you start out with a 22LR. I have witnessed numerous public shooters at my club who developed bad shooting habits because they did not start with a 22LR. You will save the cost of a 22LR in the ammo and have amuch better chance of developingproper shooting form if you shoot a low recoil gun while learning the basics and fundamentals. Alsocheck the NRA website to see ifthe NRA Basic Pistol course is available in your area.

When you do buy a center fire handgun, buy one that is well built. If it is a 9mm make sure it is approved for at least +P ( +P+ is even better ). I would also suggest staying away from a handgun with an internal safetylocking device. At our club we have had two S&W M&P in .40 and one Taurus 24/7 in .40 where the internal safety locking device failed. This resulted with a live round in the chamber and no way ofremoving the live round without breaking the firearm.

For a lower priced gun, I would suggest a Springfield XD or a Ruger. If this gun is going to be used for SD, I personally would not choose one that had a magazine disconnect (check with your local gun laws). It should also be at least a 9mm (approved for +P or better yet +P+ ammo). A 40 or 45ACP would be better. I would stay away from the 45 GAP, as the ammo is harder to find and also higher in price. If you decide to go with a revolver, go with a 357 Mag with at least a 3 inch barrel (4 inch barrel is great for SD).

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+2

My brother-in-law (he's a LEO) and I went to a gun show a few months ago. I saw the High Point 9mm's there and went to check one of them out. I immediately looked at my brother-in-law like, "You have got to be kidding me!" :eek: This thing had to be the biggest, cheeziest, P.O.S. handgun I have ever seen! My brother-in-law said that the gang bangers buy the High Point handguns because, well, they're cheap. If/when they jam, malfunction, break, etc... the gang banger just buys another one - or steals another one.

PLEASE don't buy one of these poorly made P.O.S. handguns... Save up your money to buy something more reliable, or perhaps look at something used that is also reliable and still in good condition too.

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Lefty if money is tight you may be better off looking into a used pistol. In two years you will have a used HiPoint or whatever you buy any way. I picked up a used Berretta 92 FS Centurian a few years ago for $350 and it a great gun. In fact I have never had a single missfeed or problem with it.

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i have shot around with a buddy's 22 pistol some and am pretty accurate with it. and feel pretty confident in shooting a 9mm as well. I have shot both guns and feel confident in shooting both guns. I was just wondering if anyone here personally owns a hi point and if they like it or not. But from what i have heard so far they are not very good guns. I would like to buy a pistol for SD that if possible i could use to attain a concealed carry permit Personally I would prefer something in 40 or 45 but rather 45 because ammo would be more easily found in that caliber and also ammo usually runs slightly cheaper. I would not be against a double action revolver either as long as it would be small enough for concealed carry and not have much greater recoil than a semi auto handgun

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If this was NOT going to be used for SD or shot a lot, it could be okay. IMO, High Point handguns are poorly balanced. This will make shooting harder and less enjoyable. A quality firearm will last a lifetime for most peoplewhen properly maintained and can be very enjoyable to shoot.

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If you want something reasonable in price, but true jack of all trades good for darn near anything you'll need-look for a good used .357 revolver w/4"-6" barrel. Rugers are stronger and cheaper than S&W, but S&Ws are smoother out of box. Taurus is MUCH improved over what they used to be and deserve a look too. You should be able to look around and find an used Ruger Security Six or used GP100 for 200-300$.

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Hi-Point equals junk.
Buy a good used pistol or increase your budget.

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My dad has one and a buddy of mine "had" one. I don't think my dad has ever even shot his but my buddy had his for a short time and saidthatit was junk! He said it would jam all the time. I have heard other people complain about the same issue and they all agree that about the only defense your gonna get out of those guns is to pistol whip your attacker with it. I found a gun I am thinking about getting and it is a very good bargain in my opinion. It's a Taurus pt 24/7 pro and sportsmans warehouse has them for a reasonable $369.99. Definitely save your money and go with something else! Just my .2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzvdue-AeI8&feature=related

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=99&category=Pistol

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Be careful with ANY gun that has an internal locking device. At my club we have had one Taurus 24/7 and two Smith & Wesson M&P (all there were chamberedin 40 S&W) where the internal locking safety device failed. The result was a live round in the chamber with a slide that would not cycle and a trigger that would not fire the round. Each gun had to be damaged (parts broken) to remove the live round in the chamber.

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JUNK! Hi-Point = VERY Low-Point!

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locally, you could get a Springfield XD 9 (9mm) for $449 on sale with 2 mags. It's really hard to beat this deal for such a great firearm. Those who have know exactly what i am talking about.

As others said, save another $100 and get a better firearm. You will have it most likely forever so what is an extra $100???

I have the XD and its really the best pistol for the money IMO. Now for concealed carry, you could look at the Bersa Thunder in 380. Another great reliable gun for about $229. Easy to carry, cheap price and very good quality.

but whatever you do, make sure the gun fits your hand and worry less about brand. I see people buy Glocks all the time just cuz they have to have a "glock" and the grip angle doesnt fit them and they can't hit paper at 10 yards. The most important thing is to make sure it fits you first. Then take a course, learn your firearm and you will be satisfied.

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I bought the 45ACP for something to play with. I put 100 rounds through it so far and it shoots fine. No jams, reasonably accurate (as accurate as a 4 1/2" barrel can be). If you want some info check out http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com

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Just bought the High Point Compact 9mm, I LOVE IT !!!!!
I took it to the range and put 300 rounds through it with out a hitch,
they are a little heavy but that came in handy. It was very acurate. I will be buying the 45 and a 40 next payday. I say get them while you can and the Price is RIGHT! $147.00 for the 9mm try thegunsource.com they have great buys on them. I am a Retired Military 22 years and I will tell everyone about them, dont listen to the sour grapes people who paid hundreds more for there fancy guns that do the same thing. High Point Has my vote every time!:D

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You sound like one of the guys from the hi point forum on some of the posts I read. No thanks I'd rather buy a Ruger or S&W or something for a little bit more and know I got a quality gun rather than buying one and testing it and hoping it goes off everytime.

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I had one in 45 auto and it shot ok and was reasonably accurate. I shot about 350 rounds through it and it never jammed or failed. About the only real complaints where its bulk and the hard plastic and pretty much non existent grips make it hard to hold onto well with a few shots fired and it gave me blisters. I would rate it about a 6 out of 10 if I had to. It does work, it is cheap and seems reasonably reliable in my experience. I got my money back out of it and used that money to upgrade to a milspec 1911 45 auto.

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I'm just not going to have something that's blowback operated regardless of caliber/pressure level-only .22s are supposed to be blowback operated. Also the slide is cast zinc-really makes me feel good about the strength:D. Yes indeed,field stripping them is REAL FUN,trying to hold slide back exactly the right point while knocking the pin out with punch. Lastly due to the material & type of operation 80% of the weight is in the slide,meaning they actually produce accented whipping back & forth as the humongous slide travels. Those are the facts folks. I noticed the only poster promoting them to the point of badmouthing all other guns don't seem to be on the level-time will tell as he posts more. I'm rather suprized someone retired from USN actually trusts his life to that sort of firearm. SOONER OR LATER almost all of them WILL mess up according to what I've seen come into my shop to be repaired or sent back to factory, if you shoot them enough. I refuze to work on them but will send them back to factory.

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I'd rather have a good used better quality pistol than a new Hi-point, but that is me. May I suggest a S&W 5906. They are very well built, reliable, and plenty accurate. I paid $349 for a like new one, and I shoot it better than my Springfield Loaded 1911 .45 and cheaper to feed as well. Summit Gun Broker is currently out of stock, but should have some in soon. They are reasonably priced and Summit has a good reputation. The pistols come in square trigger guards and round with the round trigger guards being the newer style. If you are the least bit picky about your firearms, I think you would regret buying a Hi-point.

LOL @ all the haters...
 

first, i know that this is an old thread, but have to jump in.

To the poster that said that only gangbangers buy them cuz they're cheap...you're ridiculous, and have no merit past that post.

to the other haters...

My father and I have shot every model that HiPoint offers with thousands of rounds, and each and every one of them has performed just as well, or better, than their more expensive, more "refined" brethren. I am currently an an 11 year veteran of the US Army, Airborne Infantry, and have been shooting since I was old enough to remember....I can tell you better than any of these hacks who shoot target practice like they're elite shooters that, while inexpensive, these weapons are not "cheap." Yes, they are made with a die-cast, zinc alloy, but are buttressed by tempered steel where it matters, and most of their inner working or moving parts are made of the same stuff that kimbers are. This is not some fancy "triggersnob" jargon I am using...it is real, no **** experience.

Just to give you an idea, I have a .45 ACP and 995t 9mm Carbine that I have had for about 15 years now, and though they come with a lifetime warranty, no questions asked, I have yet to have to send them in for replacement or service. I keep them cleaned and properly lubricated. To those that argue that they are "POS guns" I have only one question: have you ever owned one? If so, did you use it properly? Also, even when properly used, the BEST handguns on the market have eventualities, and depending on the owner, make, model, and circumstances, you could experience out of the box problems with ANY weapon, whether you paid $1100 for it or $100.

oh, and guy who refuses to work on hipoints....first of all, you wouldn't have to, regardless if you own your own shop or just work at one...they are no questions asked covered. and every reputable gun shop owner/manager I know (thats a LOT of people) sells these things like hot cakes, and I have only ever heard of a very FEW that came back to the shop with problems.

The real problem with people like you all is that you have ZERO experience with anything REAL when it comes to actually having to defend yourself. After years and years and thousands and thousands of rounds, my HiPoints are still going VERY STRONG. and if your only response is that I'm some kind of shill here on the behalf of HiPoint, you're not only inexperienced, you're a completely incompetent tard who simply wants to shake trees that you don't know to piss on ground that you have no idea how to stand on.

if you are serious about buying a handgun, don't listen to the "snobs." they've never tried the same HiPoints they are trying to convince you are junk because they weren't "pretty" enough for them. I can't promise you that these weapons are for you or are going to perform the exact same as mine have, but I can promise you that if you are not satisfied, the company (all-American made) will stand by its product and replace faulty parts to make it worth the $100 or so you spent to buy it. I don't know of one other manufacturer that even comes close. and the funny thing is about all those replies that said "don't trust any weapon with an internal trigger safety" because they had some that had broken...NONE of them were HiPoints.

Again, LOL @ all you haters.

High Point makes guns? :s10:

And here all this time I thought those were chordless drills. I didn't realize that was a muzzle, I thought that was were you put the drill bits.

Next you're gonna tell me that battery pack in the handle is actually a magazine? :s12:

"Say main, data Hi Purnt?" :cool15:
HL

Tommiegb21 is of course entitled to speak his opinion as anyone else is.

Obviously he is passionate about Hi-Point firearms because he made it a point to register and make that not only his first, but only here.

Regardless of others opinions and experiences there will always be others who have no had the similar experiences or share similar opinions. It seems this is the case with Tommie and I know that I too, have had such experiences.

However, when one resorts to name calling such as "hacks" & "completely incompetent tard" I have to pitch anything and everything said prior to that out.

I am certainly not an established gunsmith, shop owner or expert but I am a businessman. That being said I cannot see anyway to run a successful business offering a quality products, at par with and competitive in a marketplace if I were to have to even pay for the shipping to get one of my products back, plus the repair, and shipping costs back to my customer. If cases of $100 firearms the shipping costs alone could be equal to the purchase cost.

It would be my opinion based upon business experience that if anyone were to survive in a marketplace repairing for a lifetime and free of charge there would have to be a very, very, very low cost of the product from the very beginning. As Hi-Point is an "All-American made" product I really can't see any low cost involved in the labor.

That is just my opinion that I, as Tommygb21 is entitled to. Tommy don't let this sway you. Please join in for other discussions, too. This in overall, and generally a great crowd. Can't say I agree with starting out with a first post attacking others, but I think it will flow under the bridge pretty well.

(The "tard" comment on the other hand was pretty insensitive)