EXPLOSION?????
02-15-2008, 02:49 PM
#11
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 425
RE: EXPLOSION?????
I used to dump old ammo and stuff I screwed up loading into my burn barrel out back of the house. You would be amazed at how long these bullets would lie inside a blazing inferno before they started cooking off. And when they blew, I don't think any of them would have shattered a windshield. I just ain't buying this tale. And I know law enforcement guys who carry hundreds of rounds of ammunition around in the trunk of their cars year around where the temp must get pretty hellish...not to mention constantly being bounced around...not to mention the fact the ammo us surrounded by trunk mounted radio gear. It just don't happen folks.
02-16-2008, 11:58 PM
#14
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: kentucky
Posts: 577
RE: EXPLOSION?????
Haven't ever seen this,but I aint never seen a UFO or bigfoot and I've been in the woods or on the lake my whole life and at night I look at the same stars in the same sky,but I'm still looking.Anything is possible.
02-18-2008, 12:22 PM
#17
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 425
RE: EXPLOSION?????
I've looked looked at the pictures posted and would offer these comments.
1. The caseis obviously very old or at least in very poor condition. You've had to steel wool it just to get past the corrosion just to get down to the original brass. This makes me ask WHY in the devil would you even consider shooting crap like that in your rifle? That round of ammo should have been tossed long ago. It quite likely would have done worse damage to you if you had fired it in your rifle.
2. The phenomenon you are describing here, i.e. slamming a car door and detonating a round of ammunition, could only occur if the nitro separated from the cellulose and gave you something similar to the old thing of "sweating dynamite." Seperate out the nitro and then you've got a touchy situation.
3. If the round was resting on the car seat as you describe, I find it hard to believe it received any "jolt" significant to set it off simply because you closed the car door. Resting on a padded and spring supported car seat surely dampened anything and everything.
4. The case looks just exactly like the crap that was left when I tossed an old or defective round in my burn barrel. They ultimately cook off and blow exactly like your photo...leaving the same object behind. And frankly I suspect this is the true source of your "exploding bullet."
Sorry...I'm still calling bull**** on this one.
1. The caseis obviously very old or at least in very poor condition. You've had to steel wool it just to get past the corrosion just to get down to the original brass. This makes me ask WHY in the devil would you even consider shooting crap like that in your rifle? That round of ammo should have been tossed long ago. It quite likely would have done worse damage to you if you had fired it in your rifle.
2. The phenomenon you are describing here, i.e. slamming a car door and detonating a round of ammunition, could only occur if the nitro separated from the cellulose and gave you something similar to the old thing of "sweating dynamite." Seperate out the nitro and then you've got a touchy situation.
3. If the round was resting on the car seat as you describe, I find it hard to believe it received any "jolt" significant to set it off simply because you closed the car door. Resting on a padded and spring supported car seat surely dampened anything and everything.
4. The case looks just exactly like the crap that was left when I tossed an old or defective round in my burn barrel. They ultimately cook off and blow exactly like your photo...leaving the same object behind. And frankly I suspect this is the true source of your "exploding bullet."
Sorry...I'm still calling bull**** on this one.
02-18-2008, 12:59 PM
#18
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Camden County, Missouri
Posts: 1,019
RE: EXPLOSION?????
I've loaded thousands of rounds, crushed primers, cases etc.Many off us have a box of rimfire in our glove compartment and I even have loose centerfires laying around. I have dropped rounds on the ground many times over the years. The cartridge in the picture has definitely gone off outside of a chamber, but I don't buy the going off by itself.Also looks to be WWI or WWII vintage ammo that does not belong anywhere but disposed of.A forceinduced the firing of the cartridge, be it impact, heat etc. Centerfire cartridges are very very safe! With the current push to now attack and regulateammunition by lawmakers, any input to society that helps them believe the rounds are unsafe is not responsible.
02-20-2008, 09:23 PM
#20
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: State college PA
Posts: 183
RE: EXPLOSION?????
i got a witness of this happpening.Shells tarnish after just a year.ITs brass. They tarnish easy. If it was in a fire wouldnt it have melted????The reason i tried to polish it because i had it in the bottom of a box that spilled stuff and it was all junky. I used one of those scotcth brite pads. The shell was not on the seat it was in the middle console. THe only thing i can think of is that a power from a cigarette lighter made it to it and blew it up somehow. I had coins their. i guess it was possible to go all through those coins and to the bullet. I thought about seeing if the primer would go off. I bet it still would. I guess just to hit it with a hammer. That would prove it wasnt in a fire right?