RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

from your list, I would have to say Remington.

There is a reason that more local, state, and federal law enforcment agencies are using a Remington of one sort or another (generally something from their 700 series ) as their Swat Sniper Rifles.

Just something to think about

RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

To each his own, it's whatever gun fits you the best but I personally like the Remington's
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RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

I wouldn't go by that alone... My uncle is a SWAT sniper in Texas he is on his second rifle. His first was a factory .308 Savage sniper rifle package, he could put each successive shot through the same hole all day straight from the factory. His current rifle is a remington .308 factory package and it can't come close to that kind of performance even with having work done on it......

When it comes down to it, if you want a hunting rifle they all make a great gun...If you want a bench rest gun, they all can make a great gun and straight outta the box they can outshoot most of us anyway...It just comes down to YOUR personal preferance on what you like best. As for myself I would love to own a Model 70, or a Browning but most likely will never own one due to the fact I can't justify it to myself to spend twice as much as what a savage will run and not gain much if anything in performance. Maybe when I retire I'll get one for myself...

RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

I like Ruger's target/varmint trigger and I think they may be the only manufacturer still producing a gun in 220 swift.

RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

if you want a great price,great trigger ,light weight and a very accurate rifle, get a tikka t3.

RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

I like browning a-bolt.

RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

I would take a CZ or Tikka over any on thta list for the smae price range.

The new Winchester M70s are going to be made by FN- if they are made to the same quality as their SPR and patrol rifles, I'd put them at the top of the list by a wide margin.

RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

Remington...

RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

What you say here is only PARTIALLY true. These agencies usually use Remington 700 ACTIONS, not rifles. I'd bet that 90%+ get some serious custom work done before they'll shoot well enough to be put into service. Most police SRT/SWAT sniper units require < 1MOA ALL THE TIME. Not average, but every single time, including the cold barrel shot. The Marine Corps uses the 700 as the basis for the M40 sniper rifle, but after it leaves the armorers at Quantico there's really not much Remington left in it.

As far as out-of-box accuracy...my nod would go to Savage. My Model 111 .30-06 with a 22" sporter barrel will keep right up with my Remington M700 VSS .22-250 with its 26" bull, with the Savage shooting factory ammo no less (haven't started handloading for it yet). Before I got the Rem VSS I had a Ruger M77MkII V/T that would also outshoot the Remington with the best handloads in both.

Savage's aren't the prettiest guns around, but they've got it where it counts.

The truth to the matter is that there are very few truly poor rifles made today, though a couple do come to mind. It's like a Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge thing. People tend to like one and hate another, but they all accomplish what they are designed to do. Get the rifle you like and pray it shoots well, as Savage and every other brand makes the occastional crappy 5 o'clock Friday rifle (meaning the last one off the line as the union whistle blows for the weekend). I can only say that in MY experience, my Savage's always have shot better than expected without any additional work. I look for accuracy and value, and out-of-box that's Savage. Now, if I were considering a basis for a custom rifle, with the intention to blueprint and rebarrel the rifle anyway, my first choice would be Remington.

So I think the best advice would be to look at all of them, then pick the one you like the best at the highest price you can afford to spend. Then put good glass on it and feed it the right ammo and it should do you well.

Good Luck,

Mike

RE: Who has the better rifle?
 

The way I put it is that the Ford/Chevy in your driveway is a Remington 700, the rifle that the Marine Corps uses is a full blown Nextel Cup stock car that just happens to carry the Ford/Chevy name.:D