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RE: 30-06 article
ORIGINAL: frizzellr Plus, doesnt anyone realize all the "WONDERFUL" deer round you all are talking about are 30.06 offspring. ie; 270, 25.06, ect. And if the 30.06 wasnt devolped, there wouldnt be any of these?! |
RE: 30-06 article
ORIGINAL: frizzellr Plus, doesnt anyone realize all the "WONDERFUL" deer round you all are talking about are 30.06 offspring. ie; 270, 25.06, ect. And if the 30.06 wasnt devolped, there wouldnt be any of these?! |
RE: 30-06 article
ORIGINAL: frizzellr Plus, doesnt anyone realize all the "WONDERFUL" deer round you all are talking about are 30.06 offspring. ie; 270, 25.06, ect. And if the 30.06 wasnt devolped, there wouldnt be any of these?! |
RE: 30-06 article
Name one "master" for deer hunting??? |
RE: 30-06 article
So will a 270 Win and 7mm-08 Rem. Along with the 25-06 Rem they are probably as close to a perfect deer hunting cartridge as one can get.
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RE: 30-06 article
I find my loads in the 06 seem o.k. been loading this bullet for some 40 years now and with a hornady 165 interlock pointed buellt and IMR 3031 44.5 grains never had a prblem with recoil.
I also think a great cal: is the 7x57 mauser had a few over the years great deer cal: with no recoil at all. |
RE: 30-06 article
Gentlemen....
Lets face a few facts. For whitetail deer hunting any caliber between the .243 Winchester and the .300 Winchester Magnum can be considered a deer rifle. Some consider the .243 a bit light. Some consider the .300 a bit harsh. But, realistically...any caliber between those two will get the job done. Why argue over which is better. The "best" rifle caliber is the one you can shoot well. Having said that, I have chosen as my "hunting trip" rifle a Winchester Model 70 in 30/06. It will work on Pronghorns to Moose. It offers the versatility I like, suitable accuracy and moderate recoil. Yes, the 25/06 would be better suited for Pronghorns and Deer. Yes, the 300 Win Mag would be better suited for Elk and Moose. But, the 30/06 will do it all for me. This allows me to be a better rifleman with my chosen rifle. the 30/06 is best for me because I can shoot it well. |
RE: 30-06 article
ORIGINAL: Ought_Six ... This allows me to be a better rifleman with my chosen rifle. the 30/06 is best for me because I can shoot it well. When I decided that I,too, would like to hunt "big game", I purchased a .30-'06, knowing that it's capable of cleanly harvesting anything and everything I could envision hunting, and also knowing that I could shoot that rifleenough to shoot it well. I made my decision knowing the cartridge's limitations, and my own. For me, it was a great choice. I own 6 handguns, and I can shoot all of them really well... afterI go through the3+ boxes of ammo it takes for me to refamiliarize myself with that particulargun. Funny, I don't have that problem with my '06! |
RE: 30-06 article
Yes, the 25/06 would be better suited for Pronghorns and Deer. Yes, the 300 Win Mag would be better suited for Elk and Moose. But, the 30/06 will do it all for me. |
RE: 30-06 article
ORIGINAL: stubblejumper Yes, the 25/06 would be better suited for Pronghorns and Deer. Yes, the 300 Win Mag would be better suited for Elk and Moose. But, the 30/06 will do it all for me. As said before, the shooter is the number one most important part of the equation. If i have a .577 t-rex and cant shoot it, then i wont kill anything! |
RE: 30-06 article
The old '06 is an ingrained part of our hunting heritage as is the 30-30. It seems almost un-American NOT to own one if you shoot or hunt. You have to remember that these gun writers have to make a living. I usually take what they say with a grain of salt. I guess I can understand the method to his logic. There are a lot of good chamberings out there. But the versitility of the '06 or any .30 cal for that matter is unmistakable. Is the '06 a good hunting round? Yes. Are there better ones out there? That's your opinion. There are more 'specific' chamberings like the 22-250 for groundhogs; 7-08, 270, 280for deer; the 375 H&H for big bear; the .338 for elk, etc., etc. But for pure versitility with managable recoil, the old '06 is hard to beat.
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RE: 30-06 article
I own a 06, a 270 and a new 300WSM. When i hunt deer size animals it has always been a 270 with 130 grainers. Nice and flat with plenty of knockdown. For my future elk, moose hunts the 300wsm will be my choice over my 06. I can even put 150's into the 300wsm and have a flatter deer cartridge with more knockdown power than a 270. The only thing i like about the 06 is its' histery and availability of ammo/price. My 300WSM is becoming my favorite. Recoil is actually the same if not less than my 06 and the gun is lighter.
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RE: 30-06 article
I have to hand it to bigpapa. Over 1900 hits on this topic!
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RE: 30-06 article
You have to hand it to our military for developing the 30.06. How many wars has it served in and how many families have been fed with it?
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RE: 30-06 article
Just take some pain killers before you shoot so you wont notice the pain afterwords.-lol
I have a 30-06 and I will admit it does have some ass behind it, but I kind of like it. |
RE: 30-06 article
The physics are simple, the harder you push something out the front of your gun the harder it pushes back. I feel that you should shoot the largest caliber you can while still being accurate. Once you start flinching or being afraid of what will transpire with the pull of the trigger, it's time to throttle back. This is when misses and even poor wounds begin to occur on the animal. I lift alot of weights and stay in great shape so I shoot a 300Wby Mag, and can do so without feeling the effects (except on my ears). The harder the rifle is pushing back, the harder it is going to be hit. I also never complain about the recoil while I'm standing over a harvested animal. Just something to consider!!
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RE: 30-06 article
If I could only have one rifle it would be an '06 IMO the "heavy" recoil doesn't seem to show up till you get into the "hot" 150s and heavier bullets . Standard 150s are very manigable in a 7 lb rifle .
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RE: 30-06 article
A 30-06 recoil is not that bad.The bigger caliber's open up a bigger hole and are harder hitting (more shock to the animal and damage from the interia or force of impact) then witha small caliber's like a 7mm-08.Both guns will kill a deer if you hit them in the right place.But for them times you may shoot a bit further back in the guts you will have a better chance of getting the deer to laydown than a little pinker caliber.I have seen many of times even with a large exit hole of a 30-06 you may get a piece of somthing plug the hole and the deer stops bleeding.If you have a bigger exit hole with a larger caliber gun you will have a better chance of that piece that may clug the hole up to pass.There are diffrent bullets that you can use to make a hole bigger on a smaller caliber but you will never match the capabilites of a much larger gun.It is kind of like taking a 7mm-08 on a moose trip your better bet whould be a much harder hitting 30-06.Once again small calibers can and have killed deer but you stand a better chance with a 30-06 over a 7mm-08.
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