Remington 710 Stock
04-07-2007 | 12:35 AM
#31
Joined: Mar 2007
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RE: Remington 710 Stock
Here is my Remington 710 in .270 Winchester. Quite a few modifications and a more powerful scope for longer rangeshooting if needed. Cottontails at 300(+) yards? No problem...
I've tried several types of ammunition from "El Cheepo" to "The Good Stuff" ($42 Box) and I've found out my "Cheap" rifle likes cheap ammo.
So far the best groups I've gotten at 100 yards is from Federals Fusion 130 grain. Most shots are within an inch of each other. 3 out of 4 shots usualy touching each other and staying within a 1/2" circle.
Not bad for a cheap gun. Why all the modifications you ask? I guess for the same reasons people who buy an $800 dollar rifle and modify it, do. Except I didn't spend another $800 modifying it. In fact, if my count is correct, I'm still way under $700.
I've tried several types of ammunition from "El Cheepo" to "The Good Stuff" ($42 Box) and I've found out my "Cheap" rifle likes cheap ammo.
So far the best groups I've gotten at 100 yards is from Federals Fusion 130 grain. Most shots are within an inch of each other. 3 out of 4 shots usualy touching each other and staying within a 1/2" circle.
Not bad for a cheap gun. Why all the modifications you ask? I guess for the same reasons people who buy an $800 dollar rifle and modify it, do. Except I didn't spend another $800 modifying it. In fact, if my count is correct, I'm still way under $700.
04-07-2007 | 01:59 AM
#32
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Simcoe, Ontario, Canada
RE: Remington 710 Stock
ORIGINAL: juliohoo
Here is my Remington 710 in .270 Winchester. Quite a few modifications and a more powerful scope for longer rangeshooting if needed. Cottontails at 300(+) yards? No problem...
I've tried several types of ammunition from "El Cheepo" to "The Good Stuff" ($42 Box) and I've found out my "Cheap" rifle likes cheap ammo.
So far the best groups I've gotten at 100 yards is from Federals Fusion 130 grain. Most shots are within an inch of each other. 3 out of 4 shots usualy touching each other and staying within a 1/2" circle.
Not bad for a cheap gun. Why all the modifications you ask? I guess for the same reasons people who buy an $800 dollar rifle and modify it, do. Except I didn't spend another $800 modifying it. In fact, if my count is correct, I'm still way under $700.
Here is my Remington 710 in .270 Winchester. Quite a few modifications and a more powerful scope for longer rangeshooting if needed. Cottontails at 300(+) yards? No problem...
I've tried several types of ammunition from "El Cheepo" to "The Good Stuff" ($42 Box) and I've found out my "Cheap" rifle likes cheap ammo.
So far the best groups I've gotten at 100 yards is from Federals Fusion 130 grain. Most shots are within an inch of each other. 3 out of 4 shots usualy touching each other and staying within a 1/2" circle.
Not bad for a cheap gun. Why all the modifications you ask? I guess for the same reasons people who buy an $800 dollar rifle and modify it, do. Except I didn't spend another $800 modifying it. In fact, if my count is correct, I'm still way under $700.
04-09-2007 | 01:39 PM
#34
Joined: Mar 2007
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RE: Remington 710 Stock
No offense taken. Life’s too short to take things too personal. [8D]
However, I find that most people who are prejudice regarding one thing or another have not taken the time to review and see the benefits of said item.
Some other rifle makers have jumped on the band wagon, as you might say, and have taken advantage of the market that the 710 has created or had actually always been there.
Mossberg for instance has created two styles of rifles that compete with the 710 and so far I have not seen anyone bad mouth them. And this is a company that up to a few years ago did not make bolt action rifles, only shotguns.
But back to your question regarding why all the modifications… Mainly the reason for the modifications is due to my own personal preferences, physical limitations and shooting habits.
I’ll try to be as brief as possible without boring you if you want more details I’ll address them as the questions come up.
Rifle Scope: 3x9 scope is O.K. for my 10/22 but wanted something with more zoom power for this rifle, had a Tasco 6x24 target on it till I took a spill and broke it. Changed it to a Barska 6x24 Swat Tactical and liked it. Some problems with the first one and had the company exchange it. No problems with the second one.
Muzzle Break: Rifle recoil made Tasco scope hit my protective eye wear and after three to four boxes of ammo, my shoulder didn’t feel too good either. Muzzle break reduced felt recoil, kept scope from slamming into my face and reduced my flinching. Because I work in a machine shop environment, my cost was minimal due to the fact I designed the break myself , one of the guys in the shop was more than happy to make the part for me out of spare material and I pressed fitted the break myself.
Bolt Knob: Some oxidation and wear was showing on the original bolt knob. Rifle magazines regarding tactical rifles show various types of bolt knobs. Had one of my shop guys modify the original bolt knob to a 3/8-16 thread and I purchased a knob from McMaster Carr that only cost me $1.50. Badger Ordinance can put an aluminum one for you if you wish for the low cost of $95.
Bi Pod: To raise the rifle while I’m on the range. Didn’t buy Harris Bipod, too expensive, another manufacturer made identical bipod for $30 less.
Rifle Stock: Free floated the barrel (because of the hollow cells in the forearm, found that it flexed, added Devcon plastic filler, $20, now forearm is stiff and is not affected by the elements), added second swivel post slightly behind bipod for sling (didn’t like sling connected to bipod), painted stock to O.D. Green just for looks (I liked the original gray color, but after seeing all those tactical rifles in O.D. decided to change it), I had a Limsaver recoil pad on it but after a year it looked like it was decaying so I put the original one back on (I will contact the makers of the Limbsaver to see if they will honor they’re lifetime warranty and replace it).
Trigger Pull: Adjusted trigger pull to break at 3 lbs. Adjustments can be made exactly like the Remington 700.
Results, well see for yourself. Here is the target from my last ammo testing. I tested Remington Corelokt, Winchester Power Point and Federal Fusion in 130 grain. Federal Fusion showed best results. (Note: each square measures 1/2 inch and I had a 5 to 10 MPH cross wind).
Top Left Target: Bench Rest – Three first shots within 3/4 inch of each other, adjusted aiming point to shoot one inch low and left. Shot is dead center.
Top Right Target: Bench Rest – Three first shots touch each other with one flyer.
Bottom Left Target: Prone Position – First, second and forth shot touched each other, third shot was low and to the left, shot one more round landed right of the group.
Bottom Right Target: Prone Position – Separated shots - longest distance 1-1/2 inch, shortest 1/2 inch.
However, I find that most people who are prejudice regarding one thing or another have not taken the time to review and see the benefits of said item.
Some other rifle makers have jumped on the band wagon, as you might say, and have taken advantage of the market that the 710 has created or had actually always been there.
Mossberg for instance has created two styles of rifles that compete with the 710 and so far I have not seen anyone bad mouth them. And this is a company that up to a few years ago did not make bolt action rifles, only shotguns.
But back to your question regarding why all the modifications… Mainly the reason for the modifications is due to my own personal preferences, physical limitations and shooting habits.
I’ll try to be as brief as possible without boring you if you want more details I’ll address them as the questions come up.
Rifle Scope: 3x9 scope is O.K. for my 10/22 but wanted something with more zoom power for this rifle, had a Tasco 6x24 target on it till I took a spill and broke it. Changed it to a Barska 6x24 Swat Tactical and liked it. Some problems with the first one and had the company exchange it. No problems with the second one.
Muzzle Break: Rifle recoil made Tasco scope hit my protective eye wear and after three to four boxes of ammo, my shoulder didn’t feel too good either. Muzzle break reduced felt recoil, kept scope from slamming into my face and reduced my flinching. Because I work in a machine shop environment, my cost was minimal due to the fact I designed the break myself , one of the guys in the shop was more than happy to make the part for me out of spare material and I pressed fitted the break myself.
Bolt Knob: Some oxidation and wear was showing on the original bolt knob. Rifle magazines regarding tactical rifles show various types of bolt knobs. Had one of my shop guys modify the original bolt knob to a 3/8-16 thread and I purchased a knob from McMaster Carr that only cost me $1.50. Badger Ordinance can put an aluminum one for you if you wish for the low cost of $95.
Bi Pod: To raise the rifle while I’m on the range. Didn’t buy Harris Bipod, too expensive, another manufacturer made identical bipod for $30 less.
Rifle Stock: Free floated the barrel (because of the hollow cells in the forearm, found that it flexed, added Devcon plastic filler, $20, now forearm is stiff and is not affected by the elements), added second swivel post slightly behind bipod for sling (didn’t like sling connected to bipod), painted stock to O.D. Green just for looks (I liked the original gray color, but after seeing all those tactical rifles in O.D. decided to change it), I had a Limsaver recoil pad on it but after a year it looked like it was decaying so I put the original one back on (I will contact the makers of the Limbsaver to see if they will honor they’re lifetime warranty and replace it).
Trigger Pull: Adjusted trigger pull to break at 3 lbs. Adjustments can be made exactly like the Remington 700.
Results, well see for yourself. Here is the target from my last ammo testing. I tested Remington Corelokt, Winchester Power Point and Federal Fusion in 130 grain. Federal Fusion showed best results. (Note: each square measures 1/2 inch and I had a 5 to 10 MPH cross wind).
Top Left Target: Bench Rest – Three first shots within 3/4 inch of each other, adjusted aiming point to shoot one inch low and left. Shot is dead center.
Top Right Target: Bench Rest – Three first shots touch each other with one flyer.
Bottom Left Target: Prone Position – First, second and forth shot touched each other, third shot was low and to the left, shot one more round landed right of the group.
Bottom Right Target: Prone Position – Separated shots - longest distance 1-1/2 inch, shortest 1/2 inch.
