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Gun Safes
Hey all,
I am in need of a gun safe. I am going to be buying one with part of my tax refund. I don't know much about em, and have had a hard time finding info out on em. So suggestions are much appreciated. I am looking for approx 22-25 cubic foot give or take, 12+ long guns, looks decent, with sturdy locking mechanisms and fire rating of 30+ min.... I would like to stay under a grand, is this possible? Thanks in advance... Ryan |
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Sam's Club has a Winchester safe that meets your criteria for about $550-600. Bass Pro Shops has 3 or 4 choices in the $600-1000 range.
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ORIGINAL: reininger Hey all, I am in need of a gun safe. I am going to be buying one with part of my tax refund. I don't know much about em, and have had a hard time finding info out on em. So suggestions are much appreciated. I am looking for approx 22-25 cubic foot give or take, 12+ long guns, looks decent, with sturdy locking mechanisms and fire rating of 30+ min.... I would like to stay under a grand, is this possible? Thanks in advance... Ryan |
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in that price range cannon has the best safe warranty on the market,just buy one bigger than you need .
AND,DON'T CALL IT A GUN SAFE, ITS A HOME SAFE. A HOME SAFE CAN BE A TAX RIGHTOFF,IF YOU STORE YOUR TAX PAPERS IN IT.......ASK YOUR TAX MAN...... |
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tax rightoff, i love the sound of that.....one more reason for me to invest inone.
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When you decide and get it home itll be hard to move around, I put down a movers blanket and then laid safe on its back on the blanket and then could grab the 2 corners and slide it anywhere I needed to.
I have a Browning Bronze safe which is one of the lower end models. I doesnt have as many locking lugs and doesnt have as thick of a door as the more expensive safe's. The fire protection is about the same though. I think if someone breaks in your house prepared to break into a safe then they'll get into any of them. I dont think someone without the specific tools can break into any 1000$ range safe's so Im fine with mine. |
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ORIGINAL: srwshooter in that price range cannon has the best safe warranty on the market,just buy one bigger than you need . AND,DON'T CALL IT A GUN SAFE, ITS A HOME SAFE. A HOME SAFE CAN BE A TAX RIGHTOFF,IF YOU STORE YOUR TAX PAPERS IN IT.......ASK YOUR TAX MAN...... |
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i used to sell american security gun safes,i sold alot of safes after tellin people they can right it off on there taxes.
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I have a Cannon and recently had a problem with the keypad on the lock. They have excellent service and are in the process off getting it fixed with absolutely no cost to me. The issue was with a bad batch of keypads from several years ago, so I don't think you would expect to have an issue if you bought a Cannon. Mine meets all the specs that you mentioned and cost me $650 from Costco.
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ORIGINAL: Yoter I have a Cannon and recently had a problem with the keypad on the lock. They have excellent service and are in the process off getting it fixed with absolutely no cost to me. The issue was with a bad batch of keypads from several years ago, so I don't think you would expect to have an issue if you bought a Cannon. Mine meets all the specs that you mentioned and cost me $650 from Costco. |
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Here's the link with all the specs. Looks like the price has gone up since I bought mine, but it's still under a grand.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...v=&browse= |
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Fire rating on most safes in your price range is around 1275 deg for 30min ,most houses burn down in less time then that. most safes are fire proofed with 5/8in drywall.
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ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner the breaking in part is BS, safes are stolen, never broke into. current method is, wrap chain around safe, throw chain out through window, hook to 4x4, and drag said safe out through wall and down the road. load up when out of sight. RR |
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ORIGINAL: srwshooter Fire rating on most safes in your price range is around 1275 deg for 30min ,most houses burn down in less time then that. most safes are fire proofed with 5/8in drywall. Common Ratings used for fire and burglary classifications. The rating systems for safes are defined by construction or performance. Performance ratings are generally ranked by amount of time your valuables are safe when under attack by either burglary or fire. The following list will give you a general idea of how safes are rated, and these ratings are used on this website.Construction Ratings B Rated - Steel, doors less than 1 inch thick, walls less than 1/2 inch thick. C Rated - Steel, doors at least 1 inch thick, walls at least 1/2 inch thick. E Rated - Steel, doors at least 1 1/2 inches thick, walls at least 1inch thick. ER Rated - Safe or chest labeled with: "UL Inspected Tool Resisting Safe TL 15 Burglary" F Rated - Safe or chest labeled with: "UL Inspected Tool Resisting Safe TL 30 Burglary" or "UL Inspected Torch Resisting Safe TR 30 Burglary" or "UL Inspected Explosive Resistant Safe with Relocking Device X 60 Burglary" G Rated - Safe or chest labeled with: "UL Inspected Torch and Explosive Resisting Safe TX 60 Burglary" or "UL Inspected Torch Resisting Safe TR 60 Burglary" or "UL Inspected Torch and Tool Resisting Safe TRTL 30 Burglary" Performance Ratings - Burglary Classifications TL -15 Rating - Successfully resist entry for a net assault time of 15 minutes when attacked with common hand tools, picking tools, mechanical or portable electric tools, grinders, drills or pressure devices. TL- 30 Rating - Successfully resist entry for a net assault time of 30 minutes when attacked with common hand tools, picking tools, mechanical or portable electric tools, grinders, drills or pressure devices. TRTL - 30 Rating - Successfully resist entry for a net assault time of 30 minutes when attacked with common hand tools, picking tools, mechanical or portable electric tools, grinders, drills , pressure devices and oxy-fuel gas cutting or welding torches. TRTL - 60 Rating - Successfully resist entry for a net assault time of 60 minutes when attacked with common hand tools, picking tools, mechanical or portable electric tools, grinders, drills , pressure devices and oxy-fuel gas cutting or welding torches. TXTL - 60 Rating - Successfully resist entry for a net assault time of 60 minutes when attacked with common hand tools, picking tools, mechanical or portable electric tools, grinders, drills , pressure devices, explosives and oxy-fuel gas cutting or welding torches. Performance Ratings - Fire Classifications 4 Hour Rating - Maintain an interior temperature of less than 150 degrees F and an interior humidity less than 85% when exposed to fire (up to 2000 F) for 4 hours. 3 Hour Rating - Maintain an interior temperature of less than 150 degrees F and an interior humidity less than 85% when exposed to fire (up to 2000 F) for 3 hours. 2 Hour Rating - Maintain an interior temperature of less than 150 degrees F and an interior humidity less than 85% when exposed to fire (up to 2000 F) for 2 hours. 1 Hour Rating - Maintain an interior temperature of less than 150 degrees F and an interior humidity less than 85% when exposed to fire (up to 2000 F) for 1 hour. UL Labels If a safe or chest bears the "Underwriters' Laboratories, Inc." , then it's model has been fully tested by this highly respected independent laboratory. On the UL label will be a complete performance coding. If your safe has an UL label, then you can be assured it meets or exceeds the standards set by Underwriter Laboratories, Inc. |
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I bought a Stack On from Dick's Sporting Goods this past fall. Not sure what the fire rating is, it holds up to 36 guns. I had to take the door facing off going into the room that I put it in. I didn't bolt it to the floor, as heavy & bulky as it is ( it took 5 people to unload & get into my house )and having to take the door frame & stuff off if someone wants it that bad they can have it.
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I just bought a Liberty-Timber Ridge form gander mountain today. It has a 45 minute fire rating, and weighs in close to 700 lbs. From all the safes that I had looked at it was the best value, and had similar features. I was able to pick it up for 899 (burgandy gloss finish), but could have gotten a textured finish for 799. Gander mountain had a special, get one of their CC's and save 10% on the purchase. So all in all, I think I got a good safe at a great price...
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ORIGINAL: rynigner I just bought a Liberty-Timber Ridge form gander mountain today. It has a 45 minute fire rating, |
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A locksmith told me yesterday that I should put a bottle of water down in the bottom of my safe in case of fire, that way, in the case of a fire, the bottle would eventually heat up and burst, creating steam and preventing anything from catching on fire. At least that's the way I understood his advice. Anybody ever heard of this?
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ORIGINAL: Yoter A locksmith told me yesterday that I should put a bottle of water down in the bottom of my safe in case of fire, that way, in the case of a fire, the bottle would eventually heat up and burst, creating steam and preventing anything from catching on fire. At least that's the way I understood his advice. Anybody ever heard of this? |
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ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog ORIGINAL: rynigner I just bought a Liberty-Timber Ridge form gander mountain today. It has a 45 minute fire rating, |
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ORIGINAL: reininger ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog ORIGINAL: reininger I just bought a Liberty-Timber Ridge form gander mountain today. It has a 45 minute fire rating, 1 Hour Rating - Maintain an interior temperature of less than 150 degrees F and an interior humidity less than 85% when exposed to fire (up to 2000 F) for 1 hour. |
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I have an American Security safe, or "AMSEC", it weights 1800lbs empty has a 1/2' thick solid steel door, and the side walls are filled with concrete, rather than sheet rock, i forgot its fire rating, but i know my house could burn to the ground and then a 747 could crash n burn on top of that and i wouldnt worry about my guns
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ORIGINAL: ReDoT I have an American Security safe, or "AMSEC", it weights 1800lbs empty has a 1/2' thick solid steel door, and the side walls are filled with concrete, rather than sheet rock, i forgot its fire rating, but i know my house could burn to the ground and then a 747 could crash n burn on top of that and i wouldnt worry about my guns |
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