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243 new respect
Ok so i have a old ruger m77 sittin in the gun safe for like 2 years un touched, maybe longer. I used it as my "loaner" gun if the situation arrived. Well i was doin a little ballistic research and decided to look into the old 243 outta bordom. @200yards your 243 should hit around 1.5-2" high @100, and about 6.5-7" low at 300yards. This took me aback because i always thought of the 243 as a 100-150MAX yard rifle. I took the big bores for my 200+ shots. With 1225 ft. lb. energy at 300yards its more than enought to take down a deer. I tested myne with 95gr ammo and turns out myne is +1" at 100yards and dead at 200yards, 250yards sets me about -3". I was impressed with my little loaner and am more comfortable useing it to greater ranges now that i have a little more knowledge on it.
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RE: 243 new respect
ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF Ok so i have a old ruger m77 sittin in the gun safe for like 2 years un touched, maybe longer. I used it as my "loaner" gun if the situation arrived. Well i was doin a little ballistic research and decided to look into the old 243 outta bordom. @200yards your 243 should hit around 1.5-2" high @100, and about 6.5-7" low at 300yards. This took me aback because i always thought of the 243 as a 100-150MAX yard rifle. I took the big bores for my 200+ shots. With 1225 ft. lb. energy at 300yards its more than enought to take down a deer. I tested myne with 95gr ammo and turns out myne is +1" at 100yards and dead at 200yards, 250yards sets me about -3". I was impressed with my little loaner and am more comfortable useing it to greater ranges now that i have a little more knowledge on it. |
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ORIGINAL: Pighunter56 From what I've read and seen, you arn't exactly the smartest apple off the tree, anyway. [/quote] Hehe....  |
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I know what you mean. I have a Ruger MKII in .243 using IMR4350 pushing a 100gr Hornady BTSP. I sometimes start looking at 25.06 or a .257WBY wanting more. THe reality of it is the .243 does evrything I need it to do. I only use it for antelope and it has preformed quite well over the years. The longest shot was 275 paces (pre-laser) and it dropped on the spot.
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RE: 243 new respect
ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF Ok so i have a old ruger m77 sittin in the gun safe for like 2 years un touched, maybe longer. I used it as my "loaner" gun if the situation arrived. Well i was doin a little ballistic research and decided to look into the old 243 outta bordom. . |
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From what I've read and seen, you arn't exactly the smartest apple off the tree, anyway. |
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There have been 1000yard matches won with the plain-old 243Win. Glad you found out before putting a box of 300 Weatherby's on your shoulder.
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I REALLY like the .243. I am currently tryin to find a bare Rem 700 .243 action to build up for a varmint/deer gun.
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I have a of all things a Mosseburg rifle in 243. I love it shot my frist deer with it. I have now use mainly for ground hogs{won a 7mm mag. which i use for deer}. I found a load on the internet where I get 4000fps and i've kill hogs at 300 to 400 yrds no problem.
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ORIGINAL: apple12 I found a load on the internet where I get 4000fps and i've kill hogs at 300 to 400 yrds no problem |
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Let look for it i have wrote down at my dad's place.
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ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog ORIGINAL: apple12 I found a load on the internet where I get 4000fps and i've kill hogs at 300 to 400 yrds no problem |
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A .243 will definitely be my next rifle purchase, although it is going to be a couple of years.
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Not to mention that a few here in these forums, self included, consider the 243 a 100-150 yard rifle. People who only shoot their .243s at targets to 100-200yards are really cheating themselves. |
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I was able to get pretty good accuracy in the .243 with the 55 gr. Ballistic Tip with only one powder - H414. And the best load was not quite full throttle - but still doing a respectable 3900 with the standard 1:10 twist barrel. I think the ideal twist for this bullet would be around 1:16.
Generally, I like the performance of the 70 gr. Ballistic Tip better than the 55 gr. BT for varmint hunting. |
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Also, the 55 gr. 6MM Ballistic Tip would be the worst hog bullet on the planet, IMO. They are real explosive. Will blow a sizeable entry hole in a coyote.
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ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF Ok so i have a old ruger m77 sittin in the gun safe for like 2 years un touched, maybe longer. i always thought of the 243 as a 100-150MAX yard rifle. :eek: hmm. :eek: The 243 Winchester is a bad little man. I dont know why anyone would doubt it for deersized stuff and smaller at ranges farther than the averageperson can shoot. Ifsomeone cant make a 300yrd shot with a 243 then it is doubtfult they are going to make it with any cartridge. |
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You owned a tool for that long and never read up on it? |
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ORIGINAL: Cryptic Gypsy ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF Ok so i have a old ruger m77 sittin in the gun safe for like 2 years un touched, maybe longer. i always thought of the 243 as a 100-150MAX yard rifle. :eek: hmm. :eek: The 243 Winchester is a bad little man. I dont know why anyone would doubt it for deersized stuff and smaller at ranges farther than the averageperson can shoot. Ifsomeone cant make a 300yrd shot with a 243 then it is doubtfult they are going to make it with any cartridge. |
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I have been gaining new respect for the .243 over the last year as well. I picked up one in a Rossi single shot .243 with a 20 gauge barrel and just love shooting it. It will be my youngest boys gun when he is old enough to start hunting.
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ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF You owned a tool for that long and never read up on it? :eek: hmm :eek: I see. |
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the 223 is AR-15. And the .222 just dont get used either. Hard to find ammo for it round here less they special order it. I usually grab my 30-30 incase i choose to stalk. or my 300wsm for the stand. I will walk with it but when i hit the thick brush i would rather have the short 30-30. Why is it so hard to beleave there is a gun in my cabnet never used before, other than sighting in. I have 2 others that i have NEVER shot not one time. They were given to me by my Dad and have never been been fired by me. They get the annual cleaning and thats it, back in the safe they go.
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The .243 would be great for granny biscuit. The triple deuce is an awesome little cartridge. I am sorry to see it decline in popularity.
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ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF Why is it so hard to beleave there is a gun in my cabnet never used before, other than sighting in. I have 2 others that i have NEVER shot not one time. |
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As stated before, and I KNOW I am not the only one on these forums that thought this. The 243 was thought to be a 100-150 yard gun. I have read it with my own eyes and seen it more than once in numerous postings. Hell you might have been one, start a new account now tryin to act the part of a bullet/ballistics master. for 100-150 yards i would rather carry my 30-30, still do. But i fell more confident now about useing the short barrel smooth action of the M77 for longer shots. I dont reload and noone i know locally reloads, so fixing up a Hot/special load just isnt in the cards.
Oh, and on my old man; he buys guns from people all the time. For him to give me a gun is NOTHING out of the ordinary, and for me to sight them in and store them never to touch again is not out of the question. NEwho im dont with this one, what started as a intell type post somehow turned into a flame war by some of the lessers of the forums (ie. Pighunter and Cryptic Gypsy). And also one reason I stopped droppin in so much in the first place. |
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I am not attempting to put you down. I know hunters that have killed deer with a 17 Remington. My great uncle has had a 222 since 1953. I have never underestimated any centerfire in my entire life. When I was 10 I received a Colt AR chambered in 9mm. I used to shoot that 9mm at 150 yards on paper and stumps. But you want to talk sh!t about me when all I was saying is that you need to open our eyes more often? I was trying to help you by telling you to help yourself. I apologize for my sarcasim. I didnt intend to hurt your feelings, spoilt-boy. ;)
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." Don'tassume some people dont look for weakness. Life Lesson Learned. |
RE: 243 new respect
ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF As stated before, and I KNOW I am not the only one on these forums that thought this. The 243 was thought to be a 100-150 yard gun. I have read it with my own eyes and seen it more than once in numerous postings. Hell you might have been one, start a new account now tryin to act the part of a bullet/ballistics master. for 100-150 yards i would rather carry my 30-30, still do. But i fell more confident now about useing the short barrel smooth action of the M77 for longer shots. I dont reload and noone i know locally reloads, so fixing up a Hot/special load just isnt in the cards. Oh, and on my old man; he buys guns from people all the time. For him to give me a gun is NOTHING out of the ordinary, and for me to sight them in and store them never to touch again is not out of the question. NEwho im dont with this one, what started as a intell type post somehow turned into a flame war by some of the lessers of the forums (ie. Pighunter and Cryptic Gypsy). And also one reason I stopped droppin in so much in the first place. |
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ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF And the .222 just dont get used either. Hard to find ammo for it round here less they special order it. I usually grab my 30-30 incase i choose to stalk. or my 300wsm for the stand. I just always liked the one gun used, one gun backup theory. biscuit jake said "I am sorry to see it decline in popularity." when speaking of the 222,I agree. If you ever get into handloading dont look over that rifle. Pighunter56 A good shooter can kill a deer farther than 300 yards with the 243 Winchester. |
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ORIGINAL: Baleful Scout ORIGINAL: SHoNUFF And the .222 just dont get used either. Hard to find ammo for it round here less they special order it. I usually grab my 30-30 incase i choose to stalk. or my 300wsm for the stand. I just always liked the one gun used, one gun backup theory. biscuit jake said "I am sorry to see it decline in popularity." when speaking of the 222,I agree. If you ever get into handloading dont look over that rifle. Pighunter56 A good shooter can kill a deer farther than 300 yards with the 243 Winchester. |
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