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johnshiredman 01-11-2007 04:59 PM

Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
So, if you were or are in your early thirties and looking to purchase a shotgun for turkey with the added possibility of occationally shooting clays with friends or going pheasant hunting. Would you look at a Super Black Eagle II at $1400 or a usedSBE for $800.


Ordo you have reason to tell me that something else likea Rem 1100 would suit my needs just fine.

Thanks for your input,

J

crimedog 01-11-2007 05:16 PM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
Either Benelli would suit your needs, the 11-87, new 1100 would be fine also the Beretta Extrema would work also. It's all up to you and your wallet.

hunterdeneugene 01-12-2007 07:29 AM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
For the money I would go with the Beretta 391 Series.

SHoNUFF 01-12-2007 08:06 PM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
Beretta, i dont have one yet but my friend just droped 1200 on his and LOVES it. He is a very avid duck hunter and had the SBE and says the Berreta is a awesome rifle.

bigcountry 01-13-2007 08:24 AM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 

ORIGINAL: johnshiredman

So, if you were or are in your early thirties and looking to purchase a shotgun for turkey with the added possibility of occationally shooting clays with friends or going pheasant hunting. Would you look at a Super Black Eagle II at $1400 or a usedSBE for $800.


Ordo you have reason to tell me that something else likea Rem 1100 would suit my needs just fine.

Thanks for your input,

J
Yesterday duckhunting, we shot until our barrels melted down. I took my browning gold stalker, and an elder in the church had a SBEII. We both shot and shot in salt water, rainy cold weather, and niether had a problem. I was surprised how much more the SBE kicked over my gold however.

I hunted for years with an 1187 in duck blinds. And can't say I ever had a hicup besides when my gas o ring broke, hense led me to trading for a gold. The gun worked like a champ, but that o ring thing got me mad that day, and I traded a gun that had a great track record. But it all worked out in the end, and think the gold hunter 3" I have is a fine gun too.

Duck hunting is 10X more brutal on a shotgun than turkey or most upland hunting. I can't imagine the need for a SBE for a one shot on turkey, or

People overthink buying a shotgun most of the time. They get caught up in hype, price, and big name. And usually covet the most expensive thing. TheSBEII cost way too much in my opinion. Yes, they are nice reliable design, and cleaning is an ease. If one has the money go for it. But for my hunting where its brutal, I choose to go with a gun under 600 dollars.

SwampCollie 01-13-2007 11:32 AM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
Ehhh....for turkey hunting...I have a dedicated turkey gun. Short, light, sights, full camo, slings etc etc. Its a Mossy 835. Pretty inexpensive, but Lord its great to carry on run and gun and that overbored barrel throws as nice a pattern as I have ever seen. But, it sure ain't no clays gun!

I would go with a SBE (the original). The II is great, but you don't need it. Infact, if you are going to shoot clays much at all...I would go with an older Super 90 or Montefeltro. Both are great guns, cycle light loads reliably, and are light enough to tote around all day on turkey hunts.

Champlain Islander 01-13-2007 01:11 PM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
I have a SBE and I will tell you it is a great shotgun. I use mine for turkey because of the ease of operation/ cleaningand the fact that it is light in weight and real maneuverable. It does kick like a mule and IMO the new recoil technology only makesthe SBE11a better gun. I might just trade mine in for the new model.

BP93 01-13-2007 05:24 PM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
For around the price range your looking at you could get a Berretta Extrema. This gun kicks so little you could shoot clays, pheseant, or ducks all day long, it is a wonderful gun, but its your choice.

Jackson Bowner 01-13-2007 05:39 PM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
I have a SBE and upgraded to a 10ga Browning Gold specifically for turkey hunting. If you're interested in a used one, drop me a PM or email me at [email protected] Noting wrong with it, bought it for turkey and just decided to use a little more firepower.

North Texan 01-17-2007 10:13 PM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
Franchi I-12

whitetailcrazy 01-20-2007 12:49 AM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
I've got a SBEII and its reliable as all heck. 1- its inertia operated, it does not use the gas' and powder to move the bolt and foul up action, it uses theenergy of therecoil, so it does kick a little harder. But if your a die hard turkey hunter, you know you've got to be able to run & gun, call and reposition. You will not find a lighter auto on the market. But if you don't want to spend the money, look at the Franchi I-12 it's inertia driven also and light as heck! The Beretta is a great gun, but has a long length of pull and weighs more than the above mentioned firearms....

bigcountry 01-20-2007 09:16 AM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
You know I have killed alot of turkeys, and wondered why would someone need a Semi?

whitetailcrazy 01-20-2007 09:49 AM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
You don't, but if you want a gun for all types of hunting then it's not a bad way to go. Sure an H&R single shot Pardner would do just fine, but if you like to hunt upland birds and waterfowl, a semi-auto is not a bad way to go. You can then say, use a pump then, its the shooters preference if he has the means of purchasing the gun, then let him do it. We're just here to help the orig. poster make the right choice, by giving him our opinions...relax with the I don't know why anyone would need an auto....

bigcountry 01-20-2007 10:04 AM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 

ORIGINAL: whitetailcrazy

You don't, but if you want a gun for all types of hunting then it's not a bad way to go. Sure an H&R single shot Pardner would do just fine, but if you like to hunt upland birds and waterfowl, a semi-auto is not a bad way to go. You can then say, use a pump then, its the shooters preference if he has the means of purchasing the gun, then let him do it. We're just here to help the orig. poster make the right choice, by giving him our opinions...relax with the I don't know why anyone would need an auto....
Absolutely, if you are a hardcore waterfowler, the SBEII is a good way too go. But 95% of the hunters out there won't go out in spitting freezing rain to duck hunt. You know how I know? Cause I can't get anyone to go with me right now. When its the best time to duck hunt. Its a very expensive gun. I do know some hardcores, that do ultilize thier SBE. But most only go out when its a 40 degree day. But for all around skeet, upland game, squirrel, occasional duck, a person on a budget would be better served with an 1187.

Don't worry about me, I am very relax'd today. I just know most fall in the trap, that "it cost the most, so they need it".

whitetailcrazy 01-20-2007 10:24 AM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
Big country, If I lived closer, I would be more than happy to go hunting, those beautiful full plumed birds with you. I'm trying to look for a Jan., Sea Duck huntfor next year. So will see how the SBE II holds up in the mostextreme weather, but I'll be bring my pumps for back up's, thats for certain.
I hope you understood the point I was trying to make and you didn't get offended. If you did, I'm sorry, not one to cause trouble...

bigcountry 01-20-2007 12:16 PM

RE: Shotgun SBE vs. SBE II or neither
 
Hey, I have a guy lined up for a sea duck hunting spot this Thursday in Tiglhman Island. But will probably cancel because I only have one other guy lined up. I know its a long shot, but if your interested, spot is open. Poeple say its too cold. If I can't find someone by Monday, I will have to cancel. I didn't win the lotto for a duck spot this year, so I am having to pay to use spots.


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