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deerhunter2006 12-04-2006 08:57 PM

steven rifle question
 
Hi do any yall have a stevens rifle and what caliber, thinking about getting a .223 in this caliber, and have yall heard any good reports about this rifle?

HogHuntingChik 12-04-2006 09:33 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
I have a Savage 111 in .300 Win Mag, which is the same as the Stevens, and it has shot great, I also have a Savage Weather Warrior.

Borty77 12-05-2006 06:52 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
The stevens is an awesome rifle for the money. I bought mine from bass pro about a year ago for $199 on sale. I just couldn't pass on this deal. The .270 shoots excellent groups, however I just bought a replacement stock for it.

hldeerhunter 12-07-2006 02:30 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
Here's one for ya. I have a Stevens 30-30 that was made in 1946. It still shoots like the day it was made. The gun has not broke, or rusted out in 60 years. It has been used in hard woods, swamps, swails, sun, wind, rain, and snow. Great rifle!!!

Chantecler111 12-07-2006 03:39 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
Stevens/Savage definently have a storied history when it comes to firearms, they have been around for a long time. And they do build quality guns.

TUK101 12-07-2006 09:57 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
They may not always look like a top notch gun, but any that I have ever owned or shot always performed on par with a top notch name brand gun. They are the International of the gun world (back when International was still building automobiles), they dont always have the looks, but they will still be working just as long as any other high end gun will.

Chantecler111 12-08-2006 01:40 AM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: TUK101

They may not always look like a top notch gun, but any that I have ever owned or shot always performed on par with a top notch name brand gun. They are the International of the gun world (back when International was still building automobiles), they dont always have the looks, but they will still be working just as long as any other high end gun will.
Yep.

deerdown2 12-16-2006 07:21 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
I bought a Stevens in 25-06 this year. Shoots 1 1/2 " groups at 200 yds. Very good shooter.

Baleful Scout 12-16-2006 07:51 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
VERY DEPENDABLE.
If possible I highly recommend to spend the extra money to get the accutrigger model, add a better stock later on.
You may also consider a .243(although notas cheap to shoot, it is way more versatile)and later on getting a custom .308 barrel...
a top notch stock is a must.
add a stainless bolt for "class"
This setup paired with good optics will shoot with ANY rifle there is, and is a lot cheaper and more personal.



Chantecler111 12-16-2006 08:23 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: Baleful Scout

VERY DEPENDABLE.
If possible I highly recommend to spend the extra money to get the accutrigger model, add a better stock later on.
You may also consider a .243(although notas cheap to shoot, it is way more versatile)and later on getting a custom .308 barrel...
a top notch stock is a must.
add a stainless bolt for "class"
This setup paired with good optics will shoot with ANY rifle there is, and is a lot cheaper and more personal.


Actually, I think the Savage could hang with any rifle there is, with the scope that comes with the package, out to about 300 yards.

Baleful Scout 12-16-2006 08:42 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: Chantecler111


ORIGINAL: Baleful Scout

VERY DEPENDABLE.
If possible I highly recommend to spend the extra money to get the accutrigger model, add a better stock later on.
You may also consider a .243(although notas cheap to shoot, it is way more versatile)and later on getting a custom .308 barrel...
a top notch stock is a must.
add a stainless bolt for "class"
This setup paired with good optics will shoot with ANY rifle there is, and is a lot cheaper and more personal.


Actually, I think the Savage could hang with any rifle there is, with the scope that comes with the package, out to about 300 yards.
A family member of mine just purchad a package deal and the simmons 8-point failed in less than 2 boxes(30-06) she upgraded to a Bushnell Legend for $130 from SWFA much much better glass...

The first 3 shots fell inside an inch 3/4" low @100yrds right out of the box, there is NO better gun for the price, I agree

But when I said accurate as "ANY" rifle that is what I meant....A savage action with a good custom barrel is as accurate as "ANY" rifle in the world including the Walther WA-2000, the benchshooters rifles,the best sniper rifles,etc....Accurate as "ANY"

crimedog 12-17-2006 06:32 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
I have the Stevens in 223, wish I never bought it. The bolt throw is too stiff, the angle of the bolt makes you hit the scope with your thumb, accuracy is poor for 223.

Chantecler111 12-17-2006 06:34 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: crimedog

I have the Stevens in 223, wish I never bought it. The bolt throw is too stiff, the angle of the bolt makes you hit the scope with your thumb, accuracy is poor for 223.
Boo hoo!!!!!!:D

crimedog 12-18-2006 09:06 AM

RE: steven rifle question
 
In 1100+ post have said anything other than BO HOO, Storried Past, orYep? Why not show your ignorance sometime and try to answer a fellow shooters post.

Nowhere in this discussion have you provided insight to the gun he requested feedback on other than to say Savage/Stevens builds quality guns. S&W builds quality guns but the Sigma was a piece of junk.

savagescout 12-18-2006 03:48 PM

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Here is what I did about the stevens went out paid 250 for the rifle shot it to check out accuracy. The accuracy was really good I knew it would be better with an adjustable trigger. I bought an after market trigger for 75 dollars and added a burris scope and it has been a rabbit and coyote killing sucker ever since thisis the rifle I always take. So I wouldsay buy one If it does not shot to your liking sell it for a littleless than youpaid and your not out much. But I really think you wont be sorry.


Chantecler111 12-18-2006 03:56 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: crimedog

In 1100+ post have said anything other than BO HOO, Storried Past, orYep? Why not show your ignorance sometime and try to answer a fellow shooters post.

Nowhere in this discussion have you provided insight to the gun he requested feedback on other than to say Savage/Stevens builds quality guns. S&W builds quality guns but the Sigma was a piece of junk.
I feel really intimidated by somebody who has been a member for 3 years, and doesn't even have 400 posts. And if I remember correctly, you also showed your ignorance by saying the .35 Whelen had more killing power then the .338 Win Mag. You are nothing but a whine bag, and I don't wanna hear it. Savage/Stevens, make excellent rifles, they all come with free floating barrels, which is why they are so accurate, there ya go crime, hows that? I'm sorry if you arn't a good enough shooter to take advantage of that.:D

Chantecler111 12-18-2006 04:01 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
Crime, you also have no idea how many people I have helped through PM's, and you really shouldn't judge the quality of my posts, because, like I said, most of my helping goes on through PMing.

will79 12-18-2006 05:19 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
My wife has a savage 11 in 7mm-08, ugly but shoots very good.

crimedog 12-18-2006 07:23 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
They come with freefloated barrels is BS, if you check the facts and individual gun you'll findthey have contact on all I have ran dollar bills down and that contact is uneven andmore when you rest the gun on a vise or bipod because the flimsy stock. If I recall the 35 Whelen discussion I remember alot of speculation on your part, but when you do the math you get a larger diameter bullet being pushed at similar speeds within 150 fps, you never answered how many more fps it takes the 338to overcome that larger diameter of the 35 Whelen, also add what the decay in velocity is after it does overcome the diameterdifference.

What is your experence with the Stevens 200? Do you have one from reading 200 post about itandnot evershooting it? Still haven't offered your experence with it. You see I spend my time Hunting, Shooting, Gunsmithingand Reloadingbasicly the things you spend your time speclating about on the computer. If you knew jack about this site you would also know 3 years ago it moved and histories were lost, and those who were around then have join dates of 2/12/2003. I spend my time being the 53 ranked action pistol shooter in the country, hunting, fishing, gunsmithing, reloading;you are who in the world of shooting, because I'm the guy who shoots aganst Todd Jarrett and others. If you want I'llask Tony and Faye to sponser"adopt a special shooter" they can wipe your nose andexplain the fine are of shooting and what a 223 should do.

If a gun shoots average groups of 2 inches at 100 yards it will shoot 4 inches at 200 yards, how big is a rock chuck? 300 yards it's6 inches how big is a fox or coyote chest?Oh ya average is not that two or three times the shooter flinched perfectly to shoot a clover leaf. Breaking clay pigons at 100 yards doesn't impress me.

Chantecler111 12-18-2006 07:33 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
I currently own a Stevens 200 in .308, and with Winchester 180 Power Point ammo, it will shoot under 1", crime, I really don't care what you are ranked in the country, in whatever league, hunting and shooting isn't about who's better, it's about going your own pace, and learning as you go, How good you think you are means absolutely nothing to me, because, as soon as I leave this website, and go out into the "REAL WORLD", none of it matters. I really don't think that your fantasies, about how good you think you are, really account for much, either. I can see right through your lies, and into your heart, you are a coward, who has run out of options, and has nothing left to do, but brag, "I'm ranked 53 in the country", no you arn't, your just some redneck, who logs onto here once a week and claims to know it all.

Baleful Scout 12-18-2006 08:42 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: crimedog

They come with freefloated barrels is BS, if you check the facts and individual gun you'll findthey have contact on all I have ran dollar bills down and that contact is uneven andmore when you rest the gun on a vise or bipod because the flimsy stock. .
What is your experence with the Stevens 200? Do you have one from reading 200 post about itandnot evershooting it? Still haven't offered your experence with it.
The old savages didnt come with free floated barrels but a little sanding remedied that real quick...nitpickin
The new savage owners manual clearly states that if the barrel is not free floating you should disassemble and reassemble properly...any savage owner should know that. thus leaves me to believe you have absolutly no idea of what you speak.

All together my family and myself have probally over 40 Savage/Stevens firearms. So I have a little more than a little bit of experience and feel my opinion on them is a solid one.

I would also like to add, without bragging, that I would almost bet mySavage to any in your collection of compareable value($1500)
1 Shot 1 Milk Jug@ 1000 Yards

Chantecler111 12-18-2006 08:46 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: Baleful Scout


ORIGINAL: crimedog

They come with freefloated barrels is BS, if you check the facts and individual gun you'll findthey have contact on all I have ran dollar bills down and that contact is uneven andmore when you rest the gun on a vise or bipod because the flimsy stock. .
What is your experence with the Stevens 200? Do you have one from reading 200 post about itandnot evershooting it? Still haven't offered your experence with it.
The old savages didnt come with free floated barrels but a little sanding remedied that real quick...nitpickin
The new savage owners manual clearly states that if the barrel is not free floating you should disassemble and reassemble properly...any savage owner should know that. thus leaves me to believe you have absolutly no idea of what you speak.

All together my family and myself have probally over 40 Savage/Stevens firearms. So I have a little more than a little bit of experience and feel my opinion on them is a solid one.

I would also like to add, without bragging, that I would almost bet mySavage to any in your collection of compareable value($1500)
1 Shot 1 Milk Jug@ 1000 Yards
Thanks, Baleful, I thought I waswalking on a thin leg there.

Baleful Scout 12-19-2006 01:24 AM

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yup.
In crimedogs defense (if in fact he speaks of a truthful bad experience.)was due to the fact that savage employed a 1:12twist for the.223 which didnt unleash the potential of match bullets...Savage now uses a 1:9 twist on the .223 which fixed the problem.

Chantecler111 12-19-2006 01:28 AM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: Baleful Scout

yup.
In crimedogs defense (if in fact he speaks of a truthful bad experience.)was due to the fact that savage employed a 1:12twist for the.223 which didnt unleash the potential of match bullets...Savage now uses a 1:9 twist on the .223 which fixed the problem.
I just do not like it, when people base their opinion, on a one time, minor incident.

Baleful Scout 12-19-2006 01:34 AM

RE: steven rifle question
 
Me either.

crimedog 12-19-2006 02:36 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
One of the Savage and Stevens downfall is the 1 in 9 twist they use on 223's, Savage designed there guns to shoot 69 Serria Match King bullets. The problem here is most commercial 223 ammo is 40-60 grainsthus over-stabilization of lighter bullets takes place and the Savage223 rifles are less than accurate for 223's.

Baleful Scout

Taking apart a gun and reassembling will not correct contact issues,materal would need to be removed. The reason older Savage rifles were not free floated is because that was thought to be the best method in the day, the last two inches would have upward presure. Remington continues to practice this today.You may have friends and family with Savage rifles but how many are Stevens 200 in 223? You and Chantecler111 have spoke of other cal's, where my response was limited to the Stevens223's except where I checked others for contact in the barrel channel. And no matter what you wish or do the Savage rifles have 1 in 9 twist barrels on the 223's and shoot less than accurate for 223.

As for your offer to shoot aganst me, start shooting action pistol and you can have that chance, otherwise no money in it other than selling your gun when Iembarrass you.



Baleful Scout 12-19-2006 03:08 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: crimedog

As for your offer to shoot aganst me, start shooting action pistol and you can have that chance, otherwise no money in it other than selling your gun when Iembarrass you.

Ok. So be it.
But since you are so much better. I should get to choose the terms.
Ruger Mk II 4 3/4" ALL STOCK NO UPGRADES
We both start with 50 rounds of CCI Stinger.
Whichever of us brings back the most skinned cookable meat wins.
2 Day limit.
The winner gets all the meat.
I live around theCentral Ky/Tn Border.

crimedog 12-19-2006 05:53 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
Let me use my 22/45 with a 4.5 barrel, like the grip angle better. Also stingers are very erratic out of pistols, try lower velocity bullets accuracy will be better.

Chantecler111 12-19-2006 05:59 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 

ORIGINAL: crimedog

One of the Savage and Stevens downfall is the 1 in 9 twist they use on 223's, Savage designed there guns to shoot 69 Serria Match King bullets. The problem here is most commercial 223 ammo is 40-60 grainsthus over-stabilization of lighter bullets takes place and the Savage223 rifles are less than accurate for 223's.

Baleful Scout

Taking apart a gun and reassembling will not correct contact issues,materal would need to be removed. The reason older Savage rifles were not free floated is because that was thought to be the best method in the day, the last two inches would have upward presure. Remington continues to practice this today.You may have friends and family with Savage rifles but how many are Stevens 200 in 223? You and Chantecler111 have spoke of other cal's, where my response was limited to the Stevens223's except where I checked others for contact in the barrel channel. And no matter what you wish or do the Savage rifles have 1 in 9 twist barrels on the 223's and shoot less than accurate for 223.

As for your offer to shoot aganst me, start shooting action pistol and you can have that chance, otherwise no money in it other than selling your gun when Iembarrass you.


Crimedog, I would love to see you back up these claims of your supposed greatness, what is your real name? I'll do an internet search. And please, give me a real name, not some crap you pulled off the net.

Baleful Scout 12-19-2006 06:15 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
Not so sure of your skills, huh?
I know standard velocity .22 generally yields tighter groups, I found that out many years ago.
The stinger is more dependable for the behind the ear shot on hogs.


Chantecler111 12-19-2006 06:16 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
Baleful, its quite easy, to see through his curtain of deceit. He isn't who he claims to be, and he knows it.

crimedog 12-19-2006 08:49 PM

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Chantecler

Your email bounced back as not vaild, update it on huntingNet andtell you what send me a email.


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Chantecler111 12-19-2006 08:51 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
I asked for your name, crime, not some garbage you pulled off the internet, the more you drag this on, the less valid your claims become.

TUK101 12-19-2006 09:41 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
All that I can say is that I have been ROFLMAO reading this thread. One thing that I can say is that I have owned a few Stevens/Savage rifles and they have all been good, but a little rough around the edges. They have all been functionally adequate and very stout and sturdy With the exception being the .22 that I bought my daughter last year with the synthetic stock, it feels kindof like it wouldnt take much to break it. Now my opinion on you guys' lil pissing match here, I have a strong feeling that if you guys actually did meet you would probably end up being pretty good shooting buddies and it would come away with a mutual agreement to agree to disagree.[&:][:-]

Chantecler111 12-19-2006 09:44 PM

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TUK, sometimes, you just gotta sit back, and watch the sparks fly.:D

GooseHunter Jr. 12-19-2006 10:06 PM

RE: steven rifle question
 
Been thinking about getting one myself and after reading this most I think I am going to get one!!


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