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Pictures of H&R SUPER SLEEPER!!!

I will do a write up on this after I get all the photo's copied over here....

DAVID

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This H&R was built by what is referred to as "barrel stubbing"! Barrel stubbing is where you take a factory barrel, cut it back to a total length of 3 1/2". This "short" piece of barrel is what is then called the "stub"...

The stub is internally bored, reamed and then threaded...

A Match Grade stainless steel barrel is threaded, chambered and crowned and then screwed into the original factory barrel stub...

After the barrel is screwed into the stub, the extractor slot is cut and all machine work is finished and completed...

This H&R started out as a regular factory 22 lr. that has been completely reworked and rebuilt to MATCH specifications. Here is a list things that has been to this rifle:

1 - The factory barrel has been "stubbed", threaded and faced true to the axis of the stub itself after being set in a lathe for all machining operations...

2 - A Lilja 6-groove MATCH grade stainless steel .22 barrel has been mated to the stub and chambered for the .22 lr. Match - meaning that the bullet engages the rifling with the correct throat and lead angle and headspaced to an absolute minimum for Match type ammo. The barrel diameter is 1.200" straight with no taper and was finished out at 23 inches...

3 - The H&R trigger has been reworked down to a "safe" and consistant pull weight of 6 ounces...

4 - A custom stock set was made specifically for this rifle. The 3" wide forend was pillar bedded with a 5/8" diameter stainless steel pillar as well as the forend being epoxy bedded from the receiver to the forend screw. This method of bedding helps "deaden" vibration and as such, it increases the accuracy of guns that utilize 2 piece stocks...

5 - A scope base was secured to the barrel with 8-40 screws and Burris Signature ZEE rings were used to hold the Weaver 36X Target scope...

6 - More for cosmetic reasons than anything else, the "pins"in the receiver were polished as was the trigger and hammer...

7 - The crown was cut at arecessed 90 degrees...

As soon as it stops raining and I can get a chance to get out and shoot this gun, I will post pictures of the targets and let you know what ammo it likes best...

Your comments on this gun are welcome....

DAVID

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It's certainly colorful.

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Ha David, I have a simple question. Why do you use the H&R receiver instead of the TC? I am getting ready to order a custom barrel for my TC, and I was just curious. Tom.

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Very interesting. Different too. Gotta ask though: Why put that much effort and moneyinto an H&R receiver?

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Glad you guys liked the pictures and thank you for the compliments...

The main reasons for using the H&R as a building platform was the trigger, the lock-up and it offered the greatest accuracy potential for building from...

These guns consistantly shoot well under 1/4" at 50 yards with many targets shot in the low 1's and several in the 0's with our smallest group being .062 for 5-shots at 50 yards....

DAVID

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I did notice the H & R's had a decent trigger. They seemed better than the Encore trigger. Tom.

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Beuatiful. Can't wait to see the groups. Don't forget to tell us abotu the ammo

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Very nice.
I took my NEF in .22 hornet to a local gunsmith for trigger work, he wouldnt touch it and didnt recomend letting anybody do it. why did he tell me that?
I dont know much about this department. He said it would break easily or be dangrous or something like that.

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I do not know why your gunsmith would not work on the trigger of your 22 Hornet. I've been reworking these triggers for over 20 years and find them just as "safe" as any trigger out there. They are easier to rework that the T/C Contender and Encore triggers but I rework tham as well...

Weather permitting, we should have some target ready to post from our new Match .22 by the end of this weekend. If it performs like the others we have been building, targets should be pretty impressive to say the least. Good or bad, results will be posted once we get the chance to shoot it....

DAVID

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ORIGINAL: DAVID WHITE

while I was waiting for the pic to load and seeing some of the target before it was done loading I was thinking to myself I hope that gun shoots better than that considering the time and effort and money that goes into one of these stub guns. Because my ruger 10-22 with a 20" clerke heavy barrel shoots tighter groups than these at 50 yards.

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Most of these groups were at 100 yards though and time has not yet permitted finding the BEST ammo that this particular gun likes....

DAVID

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good looking gun there, not sure anyone cares about groups from 50yds tho -- Show us some 100yd groups

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Awesome rifle! I like it! Any trigger job tips?

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David: I have been trying to send you e-mails concerning a 10-22. All my messages keep coming back undeliverable. Is there a problem. I also tried over on the rimfire forum. Tom.

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Very interesting finish and I like it. Good job...;)

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trailer,

thank you Sir....

Tom,

my e-mail address is: [email protected]

I check messages on a near daily basis and can answer most questions that you may have concerning the Ruger 10/22....

DAVID

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David- Your custom workis impressive! Your laminate choices are eye catching! What are some of your stock options?

I'm looking at an H&R .223 Rem Varmint Laminated- NIB. Will this gun shoot well at 100yds with handloads or in your experience would you suggest smithwork be done to it to make it more than just an "adequate varmint rifle"? Coyotes and chucks under 300 yds are the quarry.

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Sir,

I can do an H&R thumbhole stock in any color combination that "Boyd's" offers as I use their laminated stock blanks. For the forends, I offer them in widths of 2", 2 1/2" or 3". The 2 1/2" is the most popular unless the gun will be shot strictly from a bench and then the 3" is chosen...

As far as the factory 223 goes, a good trigger, muzzle recrown and a properly bedded forend will make it the best it can be in factory form. I rechamber more of these guns to the 222 Rem. Mag. Improved than all others combined. This round can be loaded with a set of 223 Ackley Improved dies and can give an additional velocity increase of some 200-300 fps. over the regular 223. It really all just depends on what one wants from their gun....

DAVID

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Beware!
First off this is my gun. I purchased it from Precision Rifleworks. I had Kim his former Partner and David build this gun for me. Kim is a close personal friend. It's things like this that split them up!
I gave Explicit instructions that I was the only one to fire the gun after being built. As time ran out and I needed it for a shoot I did have Kim sight it in for me. No pictures were taken of the groups, nor were there many groups shot. The pictures posted were from the origional 10/22 the Killer Bee, and were shot @ 50 yards. The Killer Bee shoots much better that this as I have shot against it in competition! You can see the target posted at Kims new site www.chasemountaincustom.com under the 10/22 section. As far as quality of the work, it does shoot in the .0's and low .1's 5 shots @ 50 yards.
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