short range caliber
#63
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Posts: 141
RE: short range caliber
How about a .308 with 125 grain Reduced Recoil Remington ammo? My choice would be a RMC 24" 50 caliber flintlock shooting 250 grain .452 Hornady HP's from a MMP short black sabot.
The 30-30 lever actions would be good also. The 300 Savage and 44 mags would be good choices. Problem is most of this stuff is not in production anymore because of the magnum craze. I don't care for all that bang but that's what's out there.
A nice 30 caliber pointed bullet rifle with a short barrel and wide angle scope is great for short and quick action. My Browning Micro Medallion in .308 is a fine brush riflewith plently of long range capability.
The 30-30 lever actions would be good also. The 300 Savage and 44 mags would be good choices. Problem is most of this stuff is not in production anymore because of the magnum craze. I don't care for all that bang but that's what's out there.
A nice 30 caliber pointed bullet rifle with a short barrel and wide angle scope is great for short and quick action. My Browning Micro Medallion in .308 is a fine brush riflewith plently of long range capability.
#64
RE: short range caliber
ORIGINAL: Briman
7.62x39 in an SKS.
7.62x39 in an SKS.
but SKSs are very cheap. A 7mm-08 would be a good gun, but it's way too similar to the .280. It would work fine,but it's always better to have a diverse gun collection. A .25-06 or .243 would be good. 30-30 is a thirty caliber, and it will kicklikeone.
BTW, I don't have a .243, I just wanted to add numbers after myname, I like the 7mm-08 myself.
#65
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
RE: short range caliber
"No such thing as a brush gun". I disagree. A slow heavy bullet will deflect less and penetrate better than a high velocity light bullet. Sorry guys, but this is the truth. For 100 yard and in jobs you need three features. Fast handling, good penetration, and enough energy to do the job. One the the best rifles for this criteria is a Marlin 1894 lever action. I prefer a 44 magnum with a hard cast 240 grain bullet, at 1600-1800 fps. I consider the 357 magnum a bit light, but they sure do sell alot of them. The pistol cartridges make a better choice, because of the cost of ammo. I would go with the 44 magnum, but look real hard at the 45 Colt.
Sorry fellows but a 243 is definitely not a brush caliber. Too light of bullet construction, and too much velocity. Slow her down, and bulk her up. I consider the 243 a poor choice for 100 yards and in.
I am not trying to start a controversy about brush guns, but bring your high powers to WV, I will show up with my 1886 in 45-70, and we can do some brush shooting. Sounds like fun to me. Tom.
Sorry fellows but a 243 is definitely not a brush caliber. Too light of bullet construction, and too much velocity. Slow her down, and bulk her up. I consider the 243 a poor choice for 100 yards and in.
I am not trying to start a controversy about brush guns, but bring your high powers to WV, I will show up with my 1886 in 45-70, and we can do some brush shooting. Sounds like fun to me. Tom.
#66
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 1,673
RE: short range caliber
ORIGINAL: HEAD0001
"No such thing as a brush gun". I disagree. A slow heavy bullet will deflect less and penetrate better than a high velocity light bullet. Sorry guys, but this is the truth. For 100 yard and in jobs you need three features. Fast handling, good penetration, and enough energy to do the job. One the the best rifles for this criteria is a Marlin 1894 lever action. I prefer a 44 magnum with a hard cast 240 grain bullet, at 1600-1800 fps. I consider the 357 magnum a bit light, but they sure do sell alot of them. The pistol cartridges make a better choice, because of the cost of ammo. I would go with the 44 magnum, but look real hard at the 45 Colt.
Sorry fellows but a 243 is definitely not a brush caliber. Too light of bullet construction, and too much velocity. Slow her down, and bulk her up. I consider the 243 a poor choice for 100 yards and in.
I am not trying to start a controversy about brush guns, but bring your high powers to WV, I will show up with my 1886 in 45-70, and we can do some brush shooting. Sounds like fun to me. Tom.
"No such thing as a brush gun". I disagree. A slow heavy bullet will deflect less and penetrate better than a high velocity light bullet. Sorry guys, but this is the truth. For 100 yard and in jobs you need three features. Fast handling, good penetration, and enough energy to do the job. One the the best rifles for this criteria is a Marlin 1894 lever action. I prefer a 44 magnum with a hard cast 240 grain bullet, at 1600-1800 fps. I consider the 357 magnum a bit light, but they sure do sell alot of them. The pistol cartridges make a better choice, because of the cost of ammo. I would go with the 44 magnum, but look real hard at the 45 Colt.
Sorry fellows but a 243 is definitely not a brush caliber. Too light of bullet construction, and too much velocity. Slow her down, and bulk her up. I consider the 243 a poor choice for 100 yards and in.
I am not trying to start a controversy about brush guns, but bring your high powers to WV, I will show up with my 1886 in 45-70, and we can do some brush shooting. Sounds like fun to me. Tom.
#67
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
RE: short range caliber
I will bow to that #1. Chantecler111 you are right, I believe your rifle would make a better brush gun than mine. You are making my point to the other shooter's, there is such a thing as a brush gun. If you are close to Morgantown and you want to shoot together some time, let me know. It would be fun. Tom.
#68
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 1,673
RE: short range caliber
I believe in a brush gun definently, I wouldn't take a shot at a deer or bear in heavy brush with a .243, that is where the big bores shine, my boy. I have relatives in Charleston, so maybe at Thanksgiving, when i go to their house, we can meet at a range.