Alaskan Wilderness Rifles?
 

What do you think of these guns? Are they worth the price (1400-1500)

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The AWR looks like a real nice package, but my attention has turned to the 700 XCR. Should be just as weather resistent (if not better) and about half the price of the AWR. Check it out.

[link]http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_XCR.asp[/link]\

The XCR is my next rifle purchase.

Fat-Arrow

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With all due respect, one really cant compare a custom rifle with an off the shelf rifle, even if it is a Remington. The craftsmanship offered my AWR, Dakota, or Brown's is simply amazing. You get what you pay for.

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IMHO no.

It is still a factory Remington 700. What you get for the added $1000 is a fiberglass stock, a bedding job, and teflon coating. Hardly worth an extra grand.

You can do the same thing to an existing 700 by purchasing an HS Precision stock ($276), get a trigger job ($50), and have it, the rings and bases, and the scope coated yourself ($260) and spend about half what you would spend on an AWR.

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I am no big fan of remingtons in general but I do own a custom shop model 7 in .350 rem mag and even weighing only 5 7/8 lbs with a 20" barrel that thing shoots as good as my Sako. I can shoot a hair over 1/2' MOA with hot hunting loads pushing 225 gr Partitions. The trigger is as good as anything around also. I definitely think they don't just pull an action and barrel out of the pile when they assemble a custom shop rifle.

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That is what I am trying to find out. Is it worth the exra $$$$?

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Generally, custom shops dont use stock equipment. It may LOOK like a standard Remington 700, so does an M24 sniper rifle, but it isnt. Check them out, in other words call them. Whose trigger do they use? Is the action blue printed. Whose barrel is it? Is it a match grade barrel? Is it lapped? Is it cryo-ed? Is the striker tuned? Can you have the rifle custom fitted to you? In other words, why the hell are they charging what they are?

Yes, you can buy a stock rifle and have it gone over by a gunsmith. Have it bedded, trigger job, and so on. Most custom rifle shops warrant a certain amount of accuracy. There is no such promise with a stock rifle. Now, having said that, I have only bought a couple rifles that will not shoot less than 1" at 100 yards. Personally, if a rifle wont shoot 1/2" at 100 yards...well, I sell it. But, I am anal that way.

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I don't believe that they are. For the amount of money they cost you still don't get any kind of accuracy guarantee that I know of. If I were to spend that kind of money I would want an accuracy guarantee. I have many Remington's and with proper handloads all of them shoot under 1 MOA and 2 of mine go half of that in calibers larger that .224.

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Get a Sendero in .300wm, .300rum or .338rum, itll cost half of that Alaskan and will indeed be very accurate.

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waste of money imo you could do the work like bigbulls said and have just as good of a rifle with enough left over for a scope also like said try the xcr if your looking to tame the weather

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You need to realize that the AWR has an action, bolt and barrel made of 416 stainless all of which is teflon coated, the stock is made by McMillan. The barrel even being 24" long has a very lightweight profile ,making it quite light ( under 7 lbs ) for a magnum. Its a hunting rifle made for hunters who hunt on foot and move around. If you get out of your truck, walk 100 yds and sit inside a blind then the money is likely wasted. If you live in the bush for days on end and hunt on your feet then the value of an AWR will make sense for you. Yes its worth the money if you need that type of perormance.

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I've been looking at these also. They're not much more than a Sako Finnlight (just can't get used to the look of this stock). Doesthe AWR stock have a cheekpiece similar to the 700?

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Does the 416 stainless and the teflon coating make it more weather resistent than a regular stainless rifle? If so how does it compare to the XCR?

Fat-Arrow

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Teflon is what lines the bottom of most non stick frying pans, pretty tough stuff. Regular stainless contrary to popular belief does rust. I have a few pin holes caused by rust on my Sako Finnlite. I personally prefer a Sako to the AWR but make no mistake the AWR is a serious hunting rifle.

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TerryM,

What do you know about the Trinite(sp) finish on the XCR? I know what teflon is, I also know that is can be scratched off. I was under the impression that the XCR's finish was chemically bonded to the stainless steel. No one seems to know much about the XCR, and Rems web site doesn't offer much more than a sales pitch.

Thanks,
Fat-Arrow

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Take a hard look at the Weatherby Ultra Lightweight in the .300 Weatherby Mag. Hard to beat for quality and weight and all weather service. Nothing needed to say about the .300 Wby Mag. Caliber. It is a killer and flat shooting. Good luck

The AWR are also great I have one in the 7mm 08 for goats.!!!

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Sorry, can't help with that. I would guess its pretty good also.

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Having owned a 40xb-ks,and a model 700ks,I can assure you that they are not simply production line rifles with better stocks.The actions are hand picked out of the production lot,then trued and lapped.The triggers are tuned and mine consistantly broke within one ounce while normal 700 triggers often vary by up to five ounces.The barrels are also hand picked and the entire rifle appears to be made to much tighter tolerances than normal production rifles.And yes the stocks are of much higher quality than the molded stocks on the standard production rifles.The custom shop does test these rifles for accuracy and unlike the normal production rifles,they do have standards that are quite good.My 40xb-ks produced sub 1/2" five shot groups and the 700ks produced sub 3/4" three shot groups.