RE: Zeiss or Leupold
 

What in the world are you talking about? Anything of value to add?

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Actually according to the ziess website the conquests other than the 3x9x40 have a constant 3.5" of eye relief.According to the leupold website the vxiii3.5x10x40 has an eye relief of 3.5" at 10x and 4.4" at 3.5x.In other words they both have the same minumum eye relief of 3.5".The 3x9x40 conquest is the clear winner herewith a constant 4" of eye relief or a minimum eye relief of 4".

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Yeah.Ican see your point Stubble.
I can also see B.C. as well.
When I did my post.I was referring to only the Zeiss Conquest3x9x40 and Leupold VXiii 3.5x10x40 because those were the two that were meant to be discussed from the topic.However I didn't present myself that way when I wrote the first time.
The Zeiss Conquest I knew had a 4" constant eye relief.
However I didn't know Leupolds VXiii 3.5x10x40 was a variable eye relief..
As you pointed out.The eye relief will decrease as the magnification increases..
So at 3.5x it will have a 4.4 inch and at 10x it will have a 3.5
inch.But really its a wash, cause the power will most likely be set on 5 or 6
for the most part,and that will pretty much give a 4 inch eye relief or close to it.
My choice would be Leupold because of that option of longer eye relief at lower powers.
Havethe Dealer to throw in the Scope Caps and Rubber eye guard ring for FREE..Plus get him to giveyou a deal on those Light Intensifiers and maybe at cost.:D

RE: Zeiss or Leupold
 

I posted this in another thread (burris vs. Leupold), but it concerns warranty and I have the same question here. I have no doubt that Zeiss is good or better than a comparably priced Leupold. My guess is that both are really excellent and any purchase of either would be entirely satisfactory in terms of function. it comes down to personal preference and..... Warranty

What are people's actual experience with Zeiss' warranty? I am SO pleased with warranty service that Leupold gives. They have a lifetime, noquestions asked warranty that applies to any owner, not only the original owner. I boughtmy Leupoldscope used in 1988. No proof of purchase. I sent it in for a general going over a couple of years ago. They completely went through it and sent it back EXPRESS for no charge. They prioritized it because I had a time deadline for a hunt and turned it around in 48 hours. There is absolutely no way I could have gotten better service, and I understand this is business as usual for Leupold. This is worth something and has made me a loyal customer - Although I have no doubt there are scopes as good as Leupold, some better for sure. But, I'll have to be sold that any other scope is not only a better scope, but has as good service after the sale. Just a thought on something that also adds value to a scope.

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To be honest my 3x10 scopes are only ever used at 3x or 10x.I always have my scope set at 3x and if the conditions call for more magnification,I adjust it to 10x.I never use the settings in between.

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I had a ziess scope damaged in a horsewreck andthe scope was repaired and returned very promptly at no charge.A friend had one damaged when it was dropped down a flight of stairs in his home and he was also very pleased with the service and the fact that the repairs were done free of charge.

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Glad to hear it. What I would suspect with a quality company like Zeiss. I was just curious because of my perfect experience with Leupold - and as I said, stuff like that (whether by Zeiss, Leupold or other) really does make a difference in overall satisfaction.

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I own Leupold's,but I had the chance to use a Zeiss last season. My next QUALITY SCOPEI buy will be a ZEISS...

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I was at the range this morning with both Leupolds and Zeiss'. Leupold does make a great scope, but I will take a Zeiss hands down for my money. This opinion is based on clarity and light gathering. As far as durability, I have never had a minutes trouble out of any scope that I have ever owned.

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And besides it would be very embarrassing topay more than 10% for a ziess and say its not as good:D

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This is my one and only experiencewithZeiss's warranty service: I had a 4.5-14x44 Conquest on my Sako 7mm Mag.While at the range one dayI accidentally dropped the rifle onto the paved parking lot and it landed mostly on the scopewhich scratched and dented it. I also noticed some sort of loose debrisinside the scope after that.I wasn't really bad, though, and I continued to hunt with it. After hunting season, however, I sent it in to Zeiss'srepair center (which is here in the USA) and explained in a letterexactly what had happened and asked if they could fix it.I sent the scope via UPS groundon a Monday and was hoping to hear from them the following week about what they might have to do to fix it and what it would cost. Instead, the following Monday when I got home from work there was a brand new replacementscope (notarepaired scope)on my front porch. So, I got a brand new (and improved I might add) scope and my only expense was what it cost me to send them the damaged scope in the first place, about $5.

The performance of the scopes themselves is reason enough for me to continue to buy Zeiss, but the service I received in this case has really made a loyal customer out of me.

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I was a former Leupold fan until I purchased a new 3.5-10x44 Zeiss Conquest. I packed it on my Bighorn hunt this year and I have nothing but praise for this scope!! Hands down a brighter and crisper scope than the Leupold's I shoot a .338 win mag and the scope has stood up to many bench sessions as well as actual in field use and abuse!!

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HERE WE GO AGAIN! LOL

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LOL - that's why I clicked back on this thread :)

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I would argue that you get a much better scope with Leupold if you were to compare what you get dollar for dollar.

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Theleupold vxiii 3.5x10x40 and the conquest 3x9x40 cost the same.So are you saying that the vxiii is a much better scope?Have you actually compared the two scopes mentioned under field conditions?I have,And I find the conquest to offer superior optics for the same price.

RE: Zeiss or Leupold
 

I have some zeiss and leupold.

I have spoting scope made by leupold. I have the old 12x40. It has held up very very good.The zeiss spoting scope was a lot more money.From looking though it the 2 I could not see a big money difrance.

I have binos made by zeiss. I hade to just buy new binos just 5 mouths ago.I looked for a long time at many dif binos.Leupold sucked they went cheep or the ones I looked though where any way.I bot conquest 8x30. They where very clear and small enough for me to shoot my bow and never tuch them.

and scopes from zeiss and leupold.I have 3 leupolds and 2 zeiss.I have to say ALL of the scops are very good.I have not a bad word about any of them.But if I needed a new one I would go zeiss.

RE: Zeiss or Leupold
 

After all the good things Im hearing about the Zeiss Conquest , I bought one(3X9X40 Z-PLEXret)on EBAY for $ 306.00 plus shipping (a steal from whatI am hearing).
Cant wait to put it on my?WIN MODEL 70 375 H&H or SAKO SS 7MM STW

Decisions, decisions

RE: Zeiss or Leupold
 

I have come to discover that when you intend on purchasing a scope the more you spend the higher quality you generally end up with. Leupold makes a fine scope but my father and brother in law both swear by Zeiss, I have never owned a Zeiss due to attending college which equals lack of funds but if I did have the money I would mostly likely own a Zeiss.

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Just speaking in terms of clarity, sharpness, light gathering (not overall quality or warranty):

Is it true that a person's eye might not be able to take advantage of a better scope? Also is it true that one's unique hunting situation (distances and amount of light available during the hours the person hunts) would affect whether he could take advantage of the quality differences.

Or will better optics simply be better, no matter what the eyes.

For instance, I have a Leupold VII (2-7 X33) and compared it side by side at before sunrise with amuch cheaper Weaver V3 (1-3 X20) that I have. I chose a time of day that was as dark asI would ever hunt and compared at 2X and 3X. I really couldn't tell the difference at my normal 100 - 200 yard distances. I also compared my Leupold VII with a friends Leupold VIII and couldn't tell the difference. I looked through a friends Zeiss and while I could certainly tell it was a wonderfulscope, I didn't do a side by side so can't comment.

On the other hand Ialso compared a Leupold VII with a very cheap (<$100) scope (I think Bushnell) at a store and could definitely tell the difference looking down the aisle in bright store light - an obvious difference in crispness and clarity. I would imagine the difference would be more significant in lower light.

I do NOThave great eyes though. Good enough to pass the driver's test w/o glasses, but I'm not an eagle eye and am more than 50 years old.

I am not disputing that more expensive scopes are probably better quality all around -from lenses to construction to warranty -but I'm wondering if we all can take advantage of it - given our eyes and the time of day and distances we hunt.

As a comparitive example, I also love high quality acoustic guitars. Frankly, other people hear things that I don't. I have a threshold above which all guitars sound just great. For instance on a scale of 1 - 10, everything past 8 sounds REALLY great to me, while others are able to distinguish beyond in many degrees of "super excellent"between 8 and 10.

RE: Zeiss or Leupold
 

I've always been a big fan of Leupolds, but for my next scope, I will probably try a Zeiss, just for GP. If they are as good as I hear they are, I can't wait...