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Savage makes some accurate guns
I bought a discointinued Savage 112 FSS in 300WM and mounted a Simmons Whitetail Expeditionwith Burris double dovetail mounts($425total).This "cheap" combo puts 3 shots into less than 1/2" with Remington factory ammo. The only modification thatI made to the gun was to reduce the trigger pull to 4 lbs. My father hasthe same gun and got very similar results.A dime would cover hisgroups as well. We were both truly impressed, especially for a magnum cartridge.
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
Yup, that's what most Savages are noted for. Not the prettiest guns ( far form it :D) but they'll shoot better than most people can.
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
ORIGINAL: KonaBoy Yup, that's what most Savages are noted for. Not the prettiest guns ( far form it :D) but they'll shoot better than most people can. |
RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
I'll agree with all of the above,but I now have a "pretty" Savage 110 FP.I replaced the ugly black tupperware stock with an olive green with black spider webbing pillar bedded Bell and Carlson and it looks as good as it shoots, sub inch 5 shot groups.It's a 25-06 I'm shooting 100gr Barnes TSX 55 gr. H4831sc Winchester case and Federal 210M primer.Averages 3308 fps.:D
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
After seeing this gun shoot, I wonder why some guys dump $1000+ into a rifle/scope combo. Yeah, pretty guns are nice and all but I'd rather spend my money on pretty taxidermy. Maybe I need more culture or something.
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
I have an old 10ns in 243 , very accurate , but the triger could be better . The new accutrigers are great .
Speaking of the cartridge you are shooting , is that the accubond ? I have heard great things about it , and that is only remington product Ive heard a positive on in a while , may have to give them try . |
RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
Here's a stock photo of mySavage 12vss.22-250 - I put bigger bipods on it, and an 8-32x scope with a sunshade. It came stock with a custom trigger set at 15oz., and it breaks like a potato chip. Quite heavy though, but if you can see it, you can kill it.
$950 altogether, but it shoots rings around my buddies' custom Remingtons. The most accurate rifle I've ever fired. ![]() |
RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
ijimmy - The accubond is not a Remington bullet, Nosler I believe. I was shooting plain jane core-lokt and my dad was shooting the ultra core-lokt. The groups with the Remington core-lokt were just under 1/2" and the Federal Speer bullets were just a touch over 1/2". These were off the shelf loadsfrom of an out of the box gun sans the minor trigger adjustment that took all of 60 seconds. I want to get a box of Accubonds for my next range visit because of their accuracy reputation and downrange performance. That is the flattest shooting, best penetrating bullet I have seen for the 300WM. If I re-loaded I would make up a batch of max loads pushing 200 gr Accubonds. That would be good for about 3900+ ft/lbs at the muzzle and almost 2000 ft/lbs at 500 yds. I like to shoot one gun for everything and shoot it well. This load would take down everything from deer to moose to all but the biggest bears.
Another surprise is how tame the recoil is on this gun. I shot a full box withjust my t-shirt between the gun and my shoulder withno problem.The guncame with a medium weight 26" barrel, between a sporter and a varmint contour. The whole combo weighs 9 lbs which really makes it comfortable to shoot. Hey quiksilver, that would probably feel light to you:). I love the varmint setup but it doesn't quite fit my style of hunting. I am waytoo busy to enjoy the winter varmint season here, unfortunately. If anyone is looking for a low budget rig, I bet the new Stevens with a decent scope and some quailty mounts would keep the freezer full for decades to come. If I didn't have so many rifles already I would be all over that. |
RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
Ment to say core lock , my bad .
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
Agree with all of you - ever since I started buying and shooting my Savage rifles, my others are sitting in my safe collecting dust. Pretty - no; Accurate and reliable- you bet.
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
I have been really impressed with my model 16 in 270 wsm.For the money the accuracy of a Savage is hard to beat.
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
Tbone , the speer you mention , I have been shooting out of my 300winmag at 150 grains , and I have yet ot get complete penitration on deer , to my suprise . 3 deer that is , but they all droped farily quick .
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
I can believe that, especially if you shot them at close range. I did that once on a really big whitetail. Hit him at 45 yds with a 150 gr core-loft and all he did was tip away from me. His body absorbed about 2800 ft/lbs of energy as the bullet never exited. He never kicked or anything, just died instantly. I got the Speers for the range(cheap), Accubonds will be for live game. The cheap bullets don't always stay together when they impact at high velocity. They would be great once the bullet slows down a little, like 200yds out or so. I like the idea of an exit hole because you don't always hit the shoulder to drop them immeditaely and entrance wounds don't leave a great blood trail. Hopefully that wasn't too much information.
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
I agree. I just purchased a new Savage 110 in 7mm-08. The first time i took it to the range to sight it in, i was shooting 3/4" groups within minutes. I couldn't believe the accuracy of this firearm. It may not be the smoothest, prettiest thing around but it is reliable and shoots fantastic. And the accu-trigger is a defineate plus.
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
Dollar for Dollar I don't think you can beat'm.
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RE: can you replace the stock?
Just curious if you're able to replace the original stock with something more, visually pleasing? I've gota .270 that I like a lot, but would be interested in upgrading its appearance if possible.....
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savage is a good quality rifle..much better than remington...did I just say that?........better priced and truly proven out of the box accuracy....something remington claims in tv commercials...notatthe range..savage is not an ugly gun..its a beauty
and that accutrigger isa fashion statement And when did us hunters go in for all thisprettystuff..... see what that ***** EYE.. nonsense has done |
RE: can you replace the stock?
From my experinces withSavage(translated Salvage) rifles,they are just like anything manufactured...you can get good one and bad ones. They are made cheaply, fit and finish looks like a high school ag class did it. The stocks, wood and synthetic(actually some sort of injection molded plastic) are simply CHEAP looking and feel CHEAP! Before the accutrigger came out I swear they used a rock as a sear. The tang safety is hard to use too, at least in my case.
I would venture to say out of all the different manufactures they are on the bottom of the list. They do have a purpose and are targeting that market.... that being the average joe hunter that needs a cheap accurate hunting rifle. I say this as a SAVAGEowner....did I just say that....I meant SALVAGE;););) |
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Double A (No reference to Arn Anderson is there?.. 4 horsemen)
I like to be humored...good stuff...I did notice however you did say cheap and accurate...thanks ...from all the Blue Collar Guyz who cant afford a thousand and still not get a decent grouping. Keep those jokes coming..It is truly refreshing. Again.. cheap and accurate.. better keep that down before Savage moves up a few slots on that list. Good and Safe Hunts 2 Ya |
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Well doubleA, I have Brownings, Remingtons, Rugers, Marlins and Savage rifles. And if I wanted to, I could buy a Kimber or Cooper or just about anything else I wanted to. But I figure, why should I spend my cash on a costly rifle just for the name when I can book a hunt with that same cash, grab my Savage and enjoy myself knowing that if I shoot at something worth while, its gonna be just as dead?????
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RE: can you replace the stock?
From my experinces withSavage(translated Salvage) rifles,they are just like anything manufactured...you can get good one and bad ones. They are made cheaply, fit and finish looks like a high school ag class did it. The stocks, wood and synthetic(actually some sort of injection molded plastic) are simply CHEAP looking and feel CHEAP! Before the accutrigger came out I swear they used a rock as a sear. The tang safety is hard to use too, at least in my case. I would venture to say out of all the different manufactures they are on the bottom of the list. They do have a purpose and are targeting that market.... that being the average joe hunter that needs a cheap accurate hunting rifle. I say this as a SAVAGEowner....did I just say that....I meant SALVAGE;););) _____________________________ Life is good, Give God the Glory....doubleA |
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i must have missed something here also. what iswrong with a cheap accurate rifle. always wondered why some guys pay 2 or 3 times more for something and get the same affect. i have yet to find a gun that shoots better because of the grain in the wood. and i would rather buy three guns than paythree times more for one. just my opinion:eek:
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
I like cheap guns that shoot and good looking guns that shoot as well. If it doesn't shoot well, it is worthless. Otherwise little or a lot of money is just user preference. And some people like nice expensive guns because they are just plain fun to own. More power to ya. I have a custom Win Model 70 stainless that is a beautiful gun and a stock 11F Savage that is a plain old work horse. The only thing that matters to me is that they both shoot like a dream.
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RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
ORIGINAL: KansasHunter5 I like cheap guns that shoot and good looking guns that shoot as well. If it doesn't shoot well, it is worthless. Otherwise little or a lot of money is just user preference. And some people like nice expensive guns because they are just plain fun to own. More power to ya. I have a custom Win Model 70 stainless that is a beautiful gun and a stock 11F Savage that is a plain old work horse. The only thing that matters to me is that they both shoot like a dream. |
RE: Savage makes some accurate guns
Savage has just come out with a deluxe blued wood stock 110 series called (I think) the 114 American Classic. The finish is High luster blue. the stock is American Walnut with wrap around checkering and an ebony fore end. This rifle looks beautiful and comes with the acutrigger. List price is 616.00 US
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RE: can you replace the stock?
I am a voracious reader of gun and hunting mags. I love product reviews and field tests. For the life of me, I can't ever remember a bad review of any Savage rifle. From the .22's to the centerfires, every review reported at least good performance and usually excellent performance. There were the usual grumblings about that knurled thing holding the barrel to the action. And I agree that the synthetic stock looks like something Matell made. BUt you can get on with a wood stock if you so desire, and thier laminated stock is nice.
Bottom line is they shoot. And they are cheap. No one said they are svelt or elegant. okcmco |
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I gave up on gun rags years ago. Most main stream mags have over opinionated scribes that are sponsored in some way by the manufactures they are supposed to be evaluating. :):):)!! You think for one moment a writer is going to bad mouth the hand that is feeding him? They, the magazines depend on advertising from them to survive. It doesnt matter if it's a Remington, Savage, Weatherby, Jarret,H&R etc.
The Remington 710 is a good example, on the forums here and elsewhere the M710are beaten down to a point where one would only use it foronlydoorstop, yet I bet in the Rifle,G&A,ST they are given a thumbs up.[8D] Who are you going to beleve, a well known paid gun scribe or a cyber guy or your own personal experince? I do remember one, I think it's called GunTest that accepted no advertisements and supposedly had fair reports. That's my take on magazines, just my opinion though. As far as guns go , I like them all, cheap ones,exspensive ones, averaged priced...it doesnt much matter to me. Here are a couple of Savages I own, far left is a 7mm Mag with Simmons glass....second from right is a 270 Win with a Nikon . The others are a Kimber/Swarovski and a Sako/Zeiss combinations. I shoot and enjoy them all. Sorry for the low quaility pic, left my good camera at the camp house. |
RE: can you replace the stock?
doubleA, very nice picture...;)
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