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Do you think this product is needed?
Hello, everyone!
My name is Slavik and I am working on development of the technology that may have some benefits for hunters. The idea behind this technology is to prevent unintentional harm during recreational activities involving firearms, like hunting. I heard cases where hunters accidentally shot other hunters or people nearby by mistaking them for wildlife or just as a consequence of adverse events. We came up with the system that will prevent weapon from shooting when it is pointed at an individual wearing a special vest or jacket. The product has three components:
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IMO< its something that would just never work out in the real world, as many reasons come to mind
first off, your not going to get many folks to wear it, too many folks have there hunting gear(and public in general) so, that will be a huge problem right off the bat, next is your going to have to sum how modify a LOT of firearms, and that is also something I gather most folks won;'t want to do! IMO< rather than trying to invent something to prevent this from happening, maybe just spend more time learning HOW to use a firearm safely! untill you can change the mind set of folks(nearly impossible too) adding more steps to things, is never going to make it better! the simple fact is, guns seldom EVER go off on there own, it take s a person to make them go off, and humans, make mistakes!, many don't bother to learn basic's, making it even worse! I would much rather see , better TESTING< for gun owners, before being allowed to own firearms, a drivers test for vehicle,s why not a mandated one for gun owners! I know this doesn't be liked by a lot of folks, this idea! But after selling firearms for a LONG time, I really started to eel it should be there! Add in doing range work and seeing folks shooting with little to NO training, or learning what is safe or not< and ??? making a laser or some other device ?? is NOT a viable solution at all IMO, just not going to work on the folks that have low skills and desire to learn any!, they won't wear it or buy it! IMO! |
One of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard!
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Why is it dumb? How many law enforcement and military lives have been lost in crossfire situations? If somehow this technology can be integrated in bullet proof vest, it would have an instant market I believe. Hunters could use them at hunting clubs, leases where members would have to wear such vest and there weapons posses the technology that makes it work.
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The only thing I want to stop my guns from firing is me, not some signal coming off someones vest. In addition, this kind of nonsense doesn't do a thing for for the appearance and reputation of hunters. Yeah they are so stupid and careless they need to wear devices and put devices on their firearms to keep them from shooting each other. I stand by my initial post. I suspect the op never hunted or even handles firearms.
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The only thing I want to stop my guns from firing is me, not some signal coming off someones vest locking up my gun. In addition, this kind of nonsense doesn't do a thing for for the appearance and reputation of hunters. Yeah they are so stupid and careless they need to wear devices and put devices on their firearms to keep them from shooting each other. I stand by my initial post. I suspect the op never hunted or even handled firearms.
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Originally Posted by mthusker
(Post 4357992)
Why is it dumb? How many law enforcement and military lives have been lost in crossfire situations? If somehow this technology can be integrated in bullet proof vest, it would have an instant market I believe. Hunters could use them at hunting clubs, leases where members would have to wear such vest and there weapons posses the technology that makes it work.
sadly, all things like this, end up being used in the wrong way. Gun safety is a basic thing that can prevent accidents, KNOW your target 100% before point a gun at it! treat every gun as loaded, and LEARN basic gun common scene and safe handling, will prevent most all SO called accidental shootings! I do not see something like this, from preventing say a KID getting access to a gun, or a person with NO gun training or knowledge from stopping to shot a person by ACCIDENT or other wise gun owners are a small percentage of humans on this planet, , so that means MOST would never be wearing any device to STOP a gun from being fired at them! if you think a Vest like this will prevent a stray bullet in a combat or like shooting, your NUTS, it just might end up getting more folks killed when you cannot stop a threat! in combat and war times and the likes Innocent folks will always be a possible outcome, sadly, its the nature of that beast! a device like the above would NOT help the random casualty from stray bullets, as again, MOST all average folks wouldn;t be wearing the devise in the first place! I won't call the idea stupid, I just think it would never work out , to many flaws in the idea! and honestly, I think the world is always trying to reinvent things to solve simple problems by making complicated devices. as again,m BASIC< gun safety prevents accidental shootings if the steps are followed! I have NEVER seen a person in all my yrs hunting/living that looked like a turkey or a deer? or a TARGET! and thus, I have NOT accidentally shot anyone because of being 100% sure of my targets, and the same can happen for ANYONE that follows this simple gun safety rule, NO device needed! be a responsible gun owner and follow basic safety rules and accidents will be a LOT fewer! |
I also don't know any law enforcement officers or military who would want anyone controlling their duty weapons but them.
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I am pretty sure, technology like this is a little over either of you two's ability, for that mater mine also. But to call someone's idea dumb, is well, not only close minded , but also ignorant and short sighted. Technology is moving at an amazing rate and if there was smart weapons that could detect friendly forces in harms way that is a good thing. When you say that each person would not give up their control of their weapon, you are thinking in the past few decades, not into the future.
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OK , you give up control of your firearm, I will not. Technology is not the know all be all solution for everything on the planet. I trust me more than I trust some gizzmo. I put this idea on the same plane as self driving cars, which have already killed people.
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I also agree, yes the world is advancing in tech, but also, its making many HUMAN"S stupid in the process, and lacking humans the responsibility of there actions, they all sure seem to me to want everything that goes wrong to be someone or something else's fault!
as again, you can re invent the wheel all you want, but it all gets you to the same place, why need all the tech ? all it does is cost more money and raises the price on what was very simple things yrs ago, that humans did for yrs and yrs without much of the tech or the high costs to have the tech! Tech can be both good and bad, sad so few seem to see it this way and just want everything to do everything for them and NOT have to learn or be responsible for anything anymore! humans make mistakes and always will machines can fail, there MADE by humans at some point, so your never going to get rid of accidents or mistakes, its the nature of the beast HOW complicated one wishes to make things, to try, is all that is going on, the end results, are always the same, machines fail, humans make mistakes better educated a person is, better the training they get, the less things go bad! don't need tech to know this!! LAZY is what is ruining the world today IMO! |
Count me out. I do not need help to keep from shooting a human. So far, the thought of prison has succeeded with that.
I realize there are those that claim accidental. Well, maybe so, And, maybe you shouldn't possess a weapon. Story decades ago from near Rolla, Missouri where one hunter shot another out of their tree stand. First guy got there before second. Second took offense and shot the first out of it. "Woops. Thought you were a squirrel." Proficiency test? Maybe not a bad idea at the same time as the hunter education class. Maybe in school? |
I agree that calling the idea dumb is counterproductive. The OP asked for feedback and I believe that one of the OP's poll choices was "useless." While I don't think the idea would be useful for most hunters or anybody in LE, I will give him credit for being creative and thinking outside the box. I would not be interested in wearing such a device since it would need some type of metal or glass, etc. for reflectivity to answer the laser inquiry and a vest containing that would likely be hot, noisy and bulky. I'd say cost but most of us already spend a LOT on hunting gear anyway. :D
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