Do you mean the old wood and and or fiberglass ones. I prefer the ones that work the best and give me the best chance to be successful. I am not William tell. I am a hunter.

Raven makes a great compact hunting crossbow but I decided on a Tenpoint. The Hawke scope upgrade is a really nice improvement from what I have been told. My cousin owns a bow shop and hunts with the top tier Raven with a Hawke scope.

Ravin scopes are made by Hawke