Sticker Shock!!!!!
 

So I'm looking for a replacement for my Horton. And I go to Ten Point and almost swallowed my tongue. I'm thinking I may have done a Rip Van Winkle or something. What is with the out of galaxy prices??? I understand they are a very reputable company, but those prices are stupidly high. Who the hell is going to pay $2800 for a crossbow???

Have to agree. If you look at them, everything is machined/molded so there is very minimal hand work done. I can't see how some of the prices today are justified, and it isn't just crossbows. $6.00 and up each for arrows, $7+ for a single broadhead. Then there is the $40k pickup truck, the $2k lease, it doesn't stop. The average guy might as well give up hunting as it is past being priced out of his range.

Last year I bought a Carbon Express SLS for $550.00 and it kills deer just as dead as a $2800 10 point. Shot 3 of them over 50 yds. Sometime its more important who is behind the bow not the name on the bow. Just my 2cents.

Boy ain't it the truth. I'm spending thousands each year just to hunt locally. It may be the downfall of our sport!

If you want a tough, well built no frills hunting X-bow check out the CAMX. It is sold as a package only (direct from the manufacturer in Ohio). It includes bow, good scope, quiver, 6 GREAT arrows and a sling. This bow is ready to shoot ... and has already been shot and sighted in. They even chrono it and send you the sight-in target. This is a new company but the owners are not new to crossbows. David Choma (owner) has worked with another manufacturer (Horton I believe) for many years, and has literally built thousands of X-bows. Everything designed into this bow is for strength and function. The stock is great and has an adjustable LOP. The trigger is very good. The sight bridge (one piece billet) and PAR / anti-dry fire are his designs. They utilize a short ER scope to let you get up close and obtain a great cheek weld. There is no long cantilever scope rail to bend or get hung up in brush. I could go on and on. This is a hell of a hunting X-bow. BTW, it sells for $899 ready to go. Check out their website. Call up... and David will be glad to speak directly with you. He really knows crossbows! BTW, there is a great video review of the CAMX by Jeff over at Crossbow Nation.

The price of crossbows seemed to go up...
 

when bowhunting in Pennsylvania became legal for all hunters and there were hundreds of thousand of new crossbow hunter customers.

And of course, there would have to be a fancy rifle stock and scope for all the newbies.

I have not looked at cross bows in 4-5 years. It would be impossible for anyone to convince me that this gear is 4X better than my $700 set-up. $2800 .... plus tax, plus case, bolts and broadheads plus more tax ..... well over $3000! Wow !

Animals are bigger, tougher, stronger,faster than they used to be! If you dont spend the money you cant be succesfull! And next year will be worse so count on replaceing all your out dated equipment with new and improved. After all its just money and money is what hunting is all about!!

Grinder is on to something. I did notice that the squirrels in our area seem to be able to leap tall trees in a single bound, beavers are leaving rooster tails, and the ducks these days are flying near Mach velocities, especially the Teals. I swear the deerr in our area are developinmg X-Ray like vision. I am convinced one spotted me though the ground blind wall .... either that or headr me snoring.

And no doubt the more you spend on hunting gear the better hunter that you become. Looking at all the cr@p I have in my "man cave" closet, I have to be nearing the perfect hunter !!!

You guys are so right. How can anyone expect to kill a critter without the newest camo and equipment? It just can't happen I tell ya!

I honestly don't believe some of these prices (most of them!) that I am seeing on crossbows these days! Not like they have as much limb length and such as a full size bow like a Matthew's Creed for God's sake!

$600-$2,000 for a crossbow? Are you KIDDING me? A guy could buy a Weatherby back-in-the-day for less or even NOW - a brand new Savage 110XP or 111XP or a Remington 700 for less than that! WTH?

just bought a Barnett jackal package due to broken shoulder now I never shot a $1000 crossbow but this thing is deadly accurate and I have total confidence out to 40 maybe 50 on relaxed deer for atotal out of pocket $250

A friend just bought an Excalliber Matrix 405. He says he loves it so far. However, the cocking weight is 290??? Wow!! I told him he wasn't getting any younger. That is way too much for me I know. And for a lot of older guys!

Oh yeah, he paid $1300 + for it. Lot of money, but hope it works for him. I think for that money it should field dress the animal for you!

Tenpoint is a very reliable and safe xbow but still not worth $2,000.
Matrix Mega 405 Crossbows has a recall . Tell your friend be safe call Excalibur.

http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2014/...lls-Crossbows/

PSE also has one http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2014/...lls-Crossbows/

dont forget to keep an eye out for used bows. Last year i got a honey of a deal, guy was selling an excalibur exomag...said it had hardly been shot and i believe him, bow looked like brand new. I ended up getting the bow, scope, brand new block target, arrows and the cocking device (the kind that fits on the stock and you crank) for 350. I promptly picked up a regular pull type cocking rope and sold the crank on ebay for 150 lol. This bow is dead accurate and it hits like a brick.

I also am a carbon express fan. For all the reasons you mentioned and the fact that I have taken many critters with it.

I also have been shocked at the new Xbow prices. I bought my first horton about ten years ago and paid less than $400. As I remember that was a pretty decent bow at the time. It still works good today. I have moved on to recurve and compound hunting mostly but I still pull the horton out for practice and take it out hunting a few times each year as well.
-Jake

Uh rich guys with small pencils lol

Sticker shock?? Crossbows... apples to oranges? In my mind prices for quality x-bows remind me of my trip to look at a new truck. In 99' I paid $29K for my truck, outfitting one similar today, $47K. ?????

Find the guy looking to sell his old excal for the new excal and for under $500 you have the worlds best xbow with customer service second to none. Period.

I paid the money in 2011 for my Tenpoint Stealth XLT, for one reason. Being medically disabled, they had the only crossbow on the market with the Accudraw system. I will not be afraid to buy another Tenpoint if the need arises, great quality, excellent customer service.

I have a Excalibur Phoenix got it off E bay for 340.00 Had it for 4 years. Really good shooter.

I have about 5500 invested in 5 crossbows witch isn't hard to do but no way would I buy a 1600+ crossbow,add a dozen matched BEE arrows broad heads and a good scope your at about 21 2200 bucks just for 1 bow. Ok ya I would but I would have to sell what I have then I would buy a Carbon Extra CLS yes I would but like rifles and handguns you just can't own one hahaha.

I bought a used Excalibur Vortex TH with the "Right Stuff" package several years ago for $500. The previous owner had money problems so he sold the CB to the 1st 500 bucks. The CB looked brand new and could tell it had only been shot a handful of times. (no string wear, original arrows like new, etc.) May not find a deal like that everyday, but they are deals out there if you look. Under normal circumstances I usually avoid used bows, guns, etc. because I like a warranty. However, Excalibur stood by their warranty even though I was 2nd owner. The Vari-Zone scope fogged up and they sent me a brand new replacement with a return shipping label in less than a week!!! Still have the CB and still shoots like new. Saved about $500 bucks and got a kick-a$$ CB....Just a thought.

Right now with multiple states having passed laws allowing crossbows in archery season, there is a explosion of demand.

When you have massive demand chasing after a product, pricing for that product is far from reasonable. The bow makers are recouping R&D costs overnight.

But also along with the much higher pricing, look at the advancements in crossbows, scopes that at least have better quality lenses & reticules designed for crossbows + greatly improved arrows compared to just 7-8 years ago. There have been more advancements in crossbow design & performance in this past 7-8 years than in the prior 20 years.

Bow companies are now looking into new & more advanced limb materials than fiber glass. Not a real big surprise, just look at how long we've had carbon fiber fishing rods & golf shafts........decades. By 2020 I expect to see compound bows reach 400 fps & crossbows will be closer to 500fps than the max of 425 fps we see in today's market. And as ever more states go to full inclusion for crossbows, the prices will, if anything get higher yet. Only when demand levels off will we see prices drop.

And not only increased speed is coming. Lighter crossbows & ones with better trigger pulls are already showing up in the market, as well as shorter & narrower designs, all in the last couple of years. Lower noise & vibration hasn't gotten addressed a great deal yet, but I expect to see it get great attention over the next 3-5 yrs.

Don't get me wrong, my crossbow cost me a lot, and I expect the next one I buy in a few years to cost at least 40%+ more. Not thrilled with those realities, but I do understand what is driving this & that it won't change for at least the next 5 years or so.

I've got a Barnett Wildcat with a 150 lb draw weight. My wife bought it for me as a package deal at Academy Sports a few years ago for $299. I've got a friend that uses a top of the line Parker. I haven't noticed the deer getting any more dead when hit from a bolt fired from the Parker as compared to a bolt fired from my Barnett.

Sometimes, fancy and price it demands, just aren't necessary when it comes to hunting gear. A 40 yard shot is a 40 yard shot and as long as the bolt gets where it is supposed to it doesn't really matter what it was fired from. Kind of like rifles. You can shoot a deer with an off the shelf Rem or Win in 30-06 costing $400 and it won't be any deader than if you made the same shot with a Holland and Holland mauser action bolt rifle in 30-06 costing $10,000.

man i remember the day's when i went hunting with my cheap k-mart hunting orange suit lousey boots a plastic bag for heart and liver a knife and a rag to wipe the blood off ya after gutting a deer now we have to park a semi full of stuff next to our treestands!! there seems to be a new gismo or gadget out for everything you can think of !!!

You can't beat a parker... Price is right lifetime warranty and there one of the quietest bows I've seen...

I bought a new 3/4 ton GMC pickup in 1968 for $2500. And I was making $2.75 an hour. Today I'm retired and my last new F-150 cost me $35000. What I'm saying is everything is relative and prices on everything has gone beyond what they should be. I just bought a Ten Point Stealth SS, pricey? Yes but the quality is there and my wife can load and shoot it, in fact we are going to get her the exact same bow. Us old folks like the Acudraw. And I can't take it with me so I better enjoy it now.

Muzzle: LOL! I bust a gut at the "semi" comment! (What a great visual!)

:jaw::jaw: Didn,t I just read that you hate them with a passion?:busted::violin: