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Cooper2311 06-27-2010 05:03 PM

What should I expect for crossbow accuracy?
 
I may start hunting this fall with a crossbow. What is the best level of accuracy that is possible with the top crossbows? I have never owned one before.

There's a post by a guy who just started shooting a PSE TAC 15i crossbow here and he's got pictures of inch and three fourth groups at 50 yards and just under three inches at 60 yards. Does that sound reasonable?

Dnk 06-27-2010 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Cooper2311 (Post 3640031)
I may start hunting this fall with a crossbow. What is the best level of accuracy that is possible with the top crossbows? I have never owned one before.

There's a post by a guy who just started shooting a PSE TAC 15i crossbow here and he's got pictures of inch and three fourth groups at 50 yards and just under three inches at 60 yards. Does that sound reasonable?

Yep, I worked on a string for someone in Italy that wanted to shrink his 3" groups at 100 meters out of his Excalibur Exocet 200. With some work it got down to 1.5". Once the arrow is matched to the bow groups like the TAC should be easily possible with a good bow. It is all about shot to shot consistency.

sits in trees 06-28-2010 03:27 AM

in perfect conditions, no wind, good rest, etc, etc, you can probable get 3 inch groups with an Excal at 50yds but i would never shoot at a whitetail deer at anymore than 25yds.

Cossack 06-28-2010 04:39 AM

Most bows are capable of shooting much more accurately than the shooter. The trick is to tune the arrow to the bow,purchase quality equipment and developing an effective shooting process, i.e consistent sight picture, trigger release, bow grip.

ACutting 07-01-2010 06:34 PM

That is amazing on the accuracy. The archery shop I bought my fathers Excalibur at obviously is not away on how to properly tune the crossbow and arrow setup. The best I have been able to get out of his crossbow is about 5" at 50 yards. That is on a calm day with little to no breeze. If the wind kicks up at all that is exagerated even further. How would you go about tuning this crossbow to increase accuracy? I thought about getting one for myself but I can't hunt with it and with the grouping I had no benefit accuracy wise.

Cossack 07-02-2010 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by ACutting (Post 3641784)
That is amazing on the accuracy. The archery shop I bought my fathers Excalibur at obviously is not away on how to properly tune the crossbow and arrow setup. The best I have been able to get out of his crossbow is about 5" at 50 yards. That is on a calm day with little to no breeze. If the wind kicks up at all that is exagerated even further. How would you go about tuning this crossbow to increase accuracy? I thought about getting one for myself but I can't hunt with it and with the grouping I had no benefit accuracy wise.

Make sure all the bolts and screws are tight on the bow first. Then address the arrows.
Cropssbows perform best with an arrow that has high Forward of center (FOC) ratio, like 16 to 20%, 4 bladed, low profile broadheads (small) and smallish vanes, like 2" Blazers. Low FOC and big vanes and heads can cause the arrow to rotate wildly around it's rear axis and plane unpredictably.
I'm getting phenomenal accuracy-from 3 bows-using 405 gr arrows: Gold Tip Lazer II, 110 brass insert and Blazers (+18% FOC). I generally hunt with 100 Gr Slick Tricks or Spitfires. Consistently hitting (the nose) on my bag target with a deer applique at 30 yards with 5 arrows in no challenge if I do my part.
PS for the Cyclone I just up the head weight to 125 grs, and aluminum moon nocks for 440 grs (20% FOC).
http://www.lmariana.com/foc.htm

awshucks 07-02-2010 12:21 PM

Accuracy intrigues me. As a former bench rest rifle shooter/reloader, xbow accuracy was just another hill to climb. I shoot Excals and my favorite of them is the 200# platform.

My best groups to date were 1-1.5" benched at 50 yds, 5 shots per group. This was w/ GT L II's, 2" Blazers rt hand helical [AZ-EZ] and 100 gr field points. Y-25. Same basic arrow as Cossack favors.

Once you screw a bhead on, this can change. He's done a ton more testing than I have, I can put a Slick in a tennis ball out to 35 yds which is my limit, and I'd prefer 35'.

The point is, you more or less tune the arrow to the xbow. Others have their favorite recipes that work as well if not better for them. I quit looking once I found what I needed. YMMV.

Mr. Longbeard 07-02-2010 01:27 PM

Well I got a Parker BB 175 and with red hot crossbow bolt I am getiing 2" groups at 40 yards... Havent shot it past 40 yards yet...

I would not be surprized if it still shot around 2-3" at 50 yards... Bow is one bad mo fo

J.M.A.N. 07-12-2010 11:39 AM

Accuracy with a X-bow is determined by several factors, all which have been listed above. Matching the bow and the arrow is the first step in accuracy. The next is your scope. You can't expect superior results with inferior equipment. This all being said, I can shoot a 1" or less group indoors at 40 yards...I personally never take a shot that far in the woods and keep my shots to 30 yards or under. 30 yard outdoor shot groups are 1-1.5" groups.

mr.mc54 07-15-2010 01:33 PM

A bipod and a great bow and you can get 1&1/2 inch groups at 40yds easily. I agree with the post above that when hunting whitetail, you should limit your shot to 40yds at most, usually 25 or under.

dead on 07-19-2010 10:41 AM

I have a bowtech strykeforce with a Excal lighted reticle scope over an HHA Optimizer. I shoot Parker Red hot arrows with 125 gr FPs. Benched, It shoots almost one hole at 20 yrds( I always pull and shoot the same arrow at 20) It shoots 1" at 40 and a tad under 2" at 60.

smokepolehall 07-19-2010 01:41 PM

They have told you about how to work up fer accuracy. I can't tell what my groups would be at 50 yds, as i don't shoot at same spot. I quit that couple yrs ago after getting a pair of RobinHoods at 40 yds. I was out $25 in 4 shots with miss vixen

dead on 07-19-2010 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by smokepolehall (Post 3649636)
They have told you about how to work up fer accuracy. I can't tell what my groups would be at 50 yds, as i don't shoot at same spot. I quit that couple yrs ago after getting a pair of RobinHoods at 40 yds. I was out $25 in 4 shots with miss vixen

You have quite a CB there Sir:wink:

mr.mc54 07-20-2010 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by dead on (Post 3649699)
You have quite a CB there Sir:wink:

I THOUGHT I WAS GOOD SHOOTING OFF THE **** FEATHER AT 50 YDS. BUT ROBINHOODS AT 50 YDS???? WOW
I WISH I WAS THAT GOOD!!!!:barmy::s2:

awshucks 07-20-2010 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by mr.mc54 (Post 3649993)
I THOUGHT I WAS GOOD SHOOTING OFF THE **** FEATHER AT 50 YDS. BUT ROBINHOODS AT 50 YDS???? WOW
I WISH I WAS THAT GOOD!!!!:barmy::s2:

He said 40 yds and he's using a rest to test group size, I'd bet. That being said, I can't beat him and Lord knows I've tried, lol.:hit:

To add insult to injury, I sold him that Vixen which is an older model that's getting rare.:p

dead on 07-20-2010 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by awshucks (Post 3650013)
He said 40 yds and he's using a rest to test group size, I'd bet. That being said, I can't beat him and Lord knows I've tried, lol.:hit:

To add insult to injury, I sold him that Vixen which is an older model that's getting rare.:p

Definitely off a rest, The xbow is MUCH better than I am

smokepolehall 07-21-2010 04:17 AM

awshucks i truely am thankful you sold me the most accurate CB i have ever owned! Yes benchrest on sand bags. miss vixen is awsome, thx.:happy0001:

bushanic 07-26-2010 04:29 PM

same has smokepolehall said tight groups can cost to much money. i have done it at 30yds cant say I was trying to hit the back of the arrow but trying to get a tight groups stuff happens.The first year my son started shoot my Horton summit and Robinhood out at 25 yds we stopped. now we shoot at balloons little water balloons we blow then up to the size of big golf balls but not a tennis ball and hang them from the ceiling that is a challenge field tips can be hard to pop them but my slick take care of them easy. we try to do this free hand to get better control when we have to shoot free hand in the woods.

Cooper2311 08-02-2010 08:19 AM

Have you seen this review article?

PSE TAC 15/15i, 10/10i Crossbow Review

sproulman 08-16-2010 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by sits in trees (Post 3640164)
in perfect conditions, no wind, good rest, etc, etc, you can probable get 3 inch groups with an Excal at 50yds but i would never shoot at a whitetail deer at anymore than 25yds.

you are hunter. people i hear at club are shooting 50 yds at deer and bear here in pa.they make me sick listening to them. they wounded 4 bears last year here in my area of pa. 4 bear because of long shots.

ACPOSSETIM 08-16-2010 08:03 PM

Yeah, they can be VERY accurate, I was doing some testing with my Tenpoint Lazer tonight and shot a robin hood with my first 2 arrows @ 20 yards off a bench....yeah that was cool until I thought about how much it just cost me. was shooting off a bench out to 60 and my biggest group was right around 1 1/4". Again, not saying to shoot a deer at that range but it's nice to how how your xbow shoots.


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