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Eagles22793 12-21-2009 12:47 PM

Hortan 125 pound crossbow help
 
I have a hortan 125 pund crossbow and I went hunting today and shot at a deer but I never found it but did see some blood but still no deer. I shot it at about 60 to 70 yards and did not see the arrow hit the deer bcause it was to far. I went to where I shot at the deer and di not see any blood where I shot but did see blood about 5 to 10 yards in the path of foot prints in the snow. There was only a few drops of blood and that is it. I walked around for a while trying to find more blood about 10 to 20 yards around where I shot it. Should I walk around more and farther and will this 125 pound crossbow shot 70 yards?

sniper65 12-21-2009 02:53 PM

a crossbow isnt a 30 06 u should keep your shot to 40 and under, but get out there and look for your deer, u cant find it on the computer.

coyote170 12-21-2009 04:39 PM

X2,well said!

freshmeat 12-22-2009 03:25 AM

I know I am going to catch some sh!! for say this but I just cant let it pass.

What in the he** were you thinking
"I went hunting today and shot at a deer "
"I shot it at about 60 to 70 yards and did not see the arrow hit the deer because it was to far." At 60 yards an arrow from that xbow WILL drop 8 to 10 inches at 70 yards and the deer will have time to react to the sound. I started out with a Horton 150 and know it very will and would never take a shoot pass 30 yards. I have upgraded to a Tornado and still don't take a shoot pass 30 some people might go 40 with it,but NO BODY try 60 to70.If you find your buck you should be very thankful. Take the time to shoot you Xbow with a video tape and you will see how long it take for the arrow to get to the target and the arc it takes at that distance.

If you choose to take up this form of hunting do the sport a favor become more informed about a Xbow and it abilities.

coyote170 12-22-2009 03:34 AM

:groupwave:

bushanic 12-22-2009 05:42 AM

Please read this before you go hunting again.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/cros...bow-range.html

smokepolehall 12-22-2009 04:05 PM

Friend fer the speed & power of yer CB 30 yds is a good shot fer it. 60 yds plus shooting deer, i know half dz on CBN think thats just the starting pt. Heck they avocate shooting them out to a hundred yds. Because they have the fastest most powerful poop scooper that can be bought! Most think they're snipers don't cha knowed! :lmao:

Eagles22793 12-23-2009 08:42 AM

I did not find the deer and the crossbow has an adjutment on the side of it to set it at 0 for sighting at ten yards and then it automatically adjustes when you turn the knob. It gose up to 90 yards so I set it to 7 for 70 yards the deer did not move fast when I shot they stayed there untill the arrow hit something and then they just ran a couple of yards and stopped again and then finally ran off but I could not see if I hit one and it went running wild they were in a thick brush after I shot

awshucks 12-23-2009 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Eagles22793 (Post 3537274)
I did not find the deer and the crossbow has an adjutment on the side of it to set it at 0 for sighting at ten yards and then it automatically adjustes when you turn the knob. It gose up to 90 yards so I set it to 7 for 70 yards the deer did not move fast when I shot they stayed there untill the arrow hit something and then they just ran a couple of yards and stopped again and then finally ran off but I could not see if I hit one and it went running wild they were in a thick brush after I shot

The only thing dumber than that shot was posting it on a forum. you've made the whole xbow community look bad. I'm amazed you even hit the damn thing.

W/ an xbow shooting 300 fps, there's a 1" diff per yard at 30 yds. You are not even close to that speed and have way more drop.
That means an inch high at 29 and an inch low at 31. At 50 yds, you are talking feet diff, not inches, let alone 60 or 70.The dial-a-range on those bows are for general reference only. Too much variation from bow to bow, arrow to arrow and bhead choice. You need to do some serious homework, buy a range finder and get some practice and knowledge before you hit the woods again w/ that bow.

Eagles22793 12-23-2009 02:21 PM

awshucks u are an ass u need to do some homework because how would I make the crossbow community look bad if I shot a doe at 70 yards if anything that is a great thing to put on a fourm and a matter of feet at 50 yards you are crazy I can sight my compound bow at 50 yards and there is not no sight that is a foot long and it is only a 55 pound the crossbow is 125 pound you need to do some homework before you get on here and talk

smokepolehall 12-23-2009 03:00 PM

No its not a good thing to post & if Hortons dial-a-poop has up to 90 yds on it :s10: They should be horse whipped & ran out of town. 125 lb from Horton's across the pond builders =about a 40 Lb. Compound Bow with a 26" draw. You do what you feel lead to do. My self i respect the game on my land & do everything i can to make a clean killing shot out to 35 yds.

coyote170 12-23-2009 05:48 PM

Its a matter of ethics,you may hit the deer at that distance
but to control the arrow into a vital hit zone is difficult and
would require just about perfect conditions,bench rest etc.
I am not trying to start an arguement but feel the game is
owed the most humane shot we can give it to ensure a
clean and quick kill.Just my thoughts

awshucks 12-24-2009 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Eagles22793 (Post 3537505)
awshucks u are an ass u need to do some homework because how would I make the crossbow community look bad if I shot a doe at 70 yards if anything that is a great thing to put on a fourm and a matter of feet at 50 yards you are crazy I can sight my compound bow at 50 yards and there is not no sight that is a foot long and it is only a 55 pound the crossbow is 125 pound you need to do some homework before you get on here and talk

Easy Sport, don't get the boot for personal attacks before you get a chance to learn a few things that you are sadly in need of.

A prime example of that is your 1st post of 60 or 70 yds. Guys w/ real powerhouse bows would shudder at that statement alone.

You make the xbow hunters look bad on two counts. Your uninformed post and somewhere there's a deer running around w/ a xbow arrow sticking out of it's....... Fill in your own blank.

Wise up. You can start by learning how to spell Horton.

awshucks 12-24-2009 10:43 AM

Here's some help:




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Scout HD 125 Crossbow

With all the features of mom or dad’s crossbow, but in a compact easy to handle design, the Scout will get your kids hooked on bowhunting. Horton scaled down every critical feature on its adult crossbow to develop the Scout stock to make sure it fits a wide range of youth hunters. Don’t be fooled, dynamite comes in small packages. The Scout is a real hunting tool for your young hunter.


Get's 250 fps w/ lightest arrow Horton sells [416 gr]


Can't get ballistic table to copy and paste so I've hand copied this.


range vertdrop speed ke
0 0" 250 58 ft lbs
10 -3 245 56
20 -12 243 54
30 -26 236 52
40 -48 233 50
50 -77 230 49
60 -113 228 48
70 -157 225 47

What ever range you sight in for, deduct that drop from the ones listed for the farther ranges. This is physics and has nothing to do w/ sight or bow type, it is what it is and we all deal w/ it.
To mistake poundage in a crossbow for similar in a vert bow is a common but huge mistake, if this is your case you won't be the 1st.

If you sighted in for 20 yds, at 50 [way way way too far for deer] you would have: 77"-12"= 65" or 5' 6" drop that must be contended w/ to hit a targewt.

At 60-70 yds it's worse by a long shot, still 44" difference, regardless of sight in range. If you are using the red dot that came w/ that bow, the dot is bigger than the deer at a lot closer than 60 yds.

Chances are you are not using a rope c0cker, which centers the string. This is critical to accuracy, but can be gotten around by marking your serving w/ white out where it meets the rail on each on each side. Then check when c0cked to make sure they are even in relation to the rail.

I have fooled around w/ a lot of xbows and helped kids shoot your model at an Expo a few yrs ago. I wouldn't want to go past a 25 yd shot on a deer w/ it and that could be a stretch. I've been 'ducked' at 30 yds w/ a bow doing 328 fps, fwiw.

If you honestly didn't have a clue to some of this stuff, and are not a troll looking to start something, I apologize for my 1st post.

Others here that know me can assure you I can be an ass, however, I'm fairly certain the consensus of opinion will be this is accurate info.

JOE PA 12-26-2009 03:44 AM

Not about "hitting the deer!"
 
Most people who have been hunting for a while know that it is not about hitting a deer, whether that is with a longbow, recurve, compound, crossbow, muzzleloader, or scoped rifle. It is about taking and making a shot that you are sure will kill an animal. Just hitting it is about the worst thing you can do, for the animal, and for the hunting community as well, with all the antis out there making noise as often as they can. Keep your shots to a range that you are sure you can kill, not just hit, and you will be much happier.

Also, learn to track until you exhaust every possibility that might find it. Unfortunately, I have been there, and it is a sickening feeling. If you wound a deer and it goes off to die without being recovered, I think that is the worst thing I can do while hunting. I'd rather not see anything at all than that. But, if it does happen that you wound one, track it until you have no more possible chances to pursue.

JMHO


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