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question for all you carbon gurus...
I need some insight... I've never been a big carbon fan, anduntil I got into crossbows I've never really used them much or got into them enough to figure the sizing of themout, and every time I did try to figure out all the different sizing designations used for carbon arrows I found myself wanting to go get drunk...
what I want to know is how crossbow arrow sizingcompares to all the other carbon arrow designations,any and all sizing I see for crossbows is 22/64"and nothing else, all others are 340, 400, 500, ect. or 5575, 7595, ect, from what I thought(and can see) those numbers are the spine, but it also states that those numbers are also the shaft size, so what dia is a 340? or a 5575? and what is a 22/64" carbon arrow? is it a 340? 400? and how do you convert the numbers to figure out what matchs a 22/64" to all those other goofy numbers or vise versa? seems like a simple question, and it probably is, but its got me lost... the reason I ask is because I've been eyeing bemans ICS camo hunter shafts but it lists several different sizes(340, 400, ect.) and I have no idea which one of those sizes equals 22/64" dia... |
RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
Yes those numbers are spine and there is no relationship between diameter and that number on the shafts that I use for my compounds and recurves.
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RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
It would be really nice if somebody or companycomplied and published a list of carbon arrow designations for crossbows, by brand name and manufacturer. Like other people I get a bit confused when looking for crossbow arrows, so I stick to buying those few I know like GI Laser II, Ten Point, etc. Easton makes several different carbon arrows for crossbows but........ they aren't very informative about which and what! [&o]
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RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
just got a dozen Gold Tips will see how they work there is a guy in
town here who is a super nerd with stuff like that,I'll run it by him! |
RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
From the research I have done, crossbow arrows are basicly a 400 spine, but they are the standard 22 diameter so you really cant use a 400 arrow shaft as the diameter is too small. The only real diferance is in thickness and weight of the shaft, but being so short, there is no real archers paradox to contend with, so the spine is almost moot. So long as it is stiff enough to absorb the shock without folding, the real diferance will be final weight and straightness. OH...and if it is camo or not :)
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RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
They have camo?!?!?!?;)
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RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
ORIGINAL: KLS I need some insight... I've never been a big carbon fan, anduntil I got into crossbows I've never really used them much or got into them enough to figure the sizing of themout, and every time I did try to figure out all the different sizing designations used for carbon arrows I found myself wanting to go get drunk... what I want to know is how crossbow arrow sizingcompares to all the other carbon arrow designations,any and all sizing I see for crossbows is 22/64"and nothing else, all others are 340, 400, 500, ect. or 5575, 7595, ect, from what I thought(and can see) those numbers are the spine, but it also states that those numbers are also the shaft size, so what dia is a 340? or a 5575? and what is a 22/64" carbon arrow? is it a 340? 400? and how do you convert the numbers to figure out what matchs a 22/64" to all those other goofy numbers or vise vers seems like a simple question, and it probably is, but its got me lost... the reason I ask is because I've been eyeing bemans ICS camo hunter shafts but it lists several different sizes(340, 400, ect.) and I have no idea which one of those sizes equals 22/64" dia... Martin |
RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
Martin, many of the arrows meant to be shot out of compounds are pencil thin regardless of the spine. I have some arrows between 600 to 340 spine (Easton Epics) and they are all the same diameter (about the diameter of a pencil.
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RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
ORIGINAL: Wyvern Crossbow From the research I have done, crossbow arrows are basicly a 400 spine, but they are the standard 22 diameter so you really cant use a 400 arrow shaft as the diameter is too small. The only real diferance is in thickness and weight of the shaft, but being so short, there is no real archers paradox to contend with, so the spine is almost moot. So long as it is stiff enough to absorb the shock without folding, the real diferance will be final weight and straightness. OH...and if it is camo or not :) Wyvern I've noticed that the higher the number the less spine the arrow has, 500 being weaker than 300, and the weight per inch also increases from higher number to smaller, but thats about it for "in general" information... so say in the case of bemans ICS carbon arrows, are they all 22/64"? from what I've kind of gathered through various reading the beman thunderbolts are basically bemans ICS shafts, so would the 400 beman ICS camo hunter shafts cut down to 20" be the same as the thunderbolts? or 350's? or 300's? I've asked numerous guys about all these uninformative carbon arrow designations and noone seems to really have any straight or useful answers... I'd be interested in building some camo hunter arrows for my crossbow but the complete lack of information on carbon arrows for cross-referencing is irritating to say the least and is the main reason I never really got into carbon shafts to begin with, and itsmainly what keeps me uninterested in getting into them now... |
RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
ORIGINAL: KLS I've noticed that the higher the number the less spine the arrow has, 500 being weaker than 300, and the weight per inch also increases from higher number to smaller, but thats about it for "in general" information... ORIGINAL: KLS so say in the case of bemans ICS carbon arrows, are they all 22/64"? from what I've kind of gathered through various reading the beman thunderbolts are basically bemans ICS shafts, so would the 400 beman ICS camo hunter shafts cut down to 20" be the same as the thunderbolts? or 350's? or 300's? |
RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
KLS, I think for the most part if the the shafts are well over spined(I might be wrong). A 400 spine arrow shaft is pretty crazy stiff when hacked down to 20". Use a reasonable weight of tip, cut down an arrow that has the correct diameter and weight and shoot it. You can't go wrong if you go heavier. If the arrow goes tail left or right then worry about the spine.
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RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
ORIGINAL: sabinajiles ORIGINAL: KLS I've noticed that the higher the number the less spine the arrow has, 500 being weaker than 300, and the weight per inch also increases from higher number to smaller, but thats about it for "in general" information... ORIGINAL: KLS so say in the case of bemans ICS carbon arrows, are they all 22/64"? from what I've kind of gathered through various reading the beman thunderbolts are basically bemans ICS shafts, so would the 400 beman ICS camo hunter shafts cut down to 20" be the same as the thunderbolts? or 350's? or 300's? getting powerbolts and/or any other crossbow specific arrow seems to be the common answer I get, however that isntthe point of my questions... I, like alot of other people,know all about all the various crossbow specific arrows including eastons new camo powerbolts, my point is that I'd like the knowledge,or more so just the general information to be able to compare size and spine between crossbow arrows and all the other various carbon arrows on the market that use a completely different size/spine designation so if/when I'd like to try one I'd know wether it would be compatibledia. and spine-wise to the common crossbow specific arrows... but its that general information for cross-referencing thats not there, or at the least isextremely limited(without physically measuring each oneyourself, which is pretty impractical), and its that information that I'm looking for... I gather that it must be just as confusing to everyone else too becauseI'm havinga pretty hard time getting anysolid answers |
RE: question for all you carbon gurus...
ORIGINAL: KLS I, like alot of other people,know all about all the various crossbow specific arrows including eastons new camo powerbolts, my point is that I'd like the knowledge,or more so just the general information to be able to compare size and spine between crossbow arrows and all the other various carbon arrows on the market that use a completely different size/spine designation so if/when I'd like to try one I'd know wether it would be compatibledia. and spine-wise to the common crossbow specific arrows... but its that general information for cross-referencing thats not there, or at the least isextremely limited(without physically measuring each oneyourself, which is pretty impractical), and its that information that I'm looking for... I gather that it must be just as confusing to everyone else too becauseI'm havinga pretty hard time getting anysolid answers I don't know for sure but I would imagine that the crossbow specific carbon shafts are manufactured seperately, to different specificationsand not just cut down arrow shafts. This would make it very difficult, if not impossible, to come up withthe cross reference chart that you desire. |
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