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lyuv 03-26-2008 02:32 PM

String wax for rail
 
Hi all,
I cant get a specialized rail lube. Only string wax (Tex-Tite by Bohning). How bad is it to use onlywax (applied both to serving and rail)?

Do I loose velocity or damage the string?

Is it possible to use machine greese or gun oil (Break-Free) for rail lube?

Cossack 03-26-2008 02:35 PM

RE: String wax for rail
 
You don't need rail lube, the wax you put on the string is enough (sometimes too much).
Rail lubes attract dirt and grit which only wears the rail and the string. Parker specifically tells you not to
use it.

Dnk 03-26-2008 02:38 PM

RE: String wax for rail
 
An important question, what bow do you have?

DaGriz 03-26-2008 03:17 PM

RE: String wax for rail
 
I've experimented with a shiete load of rail lubes and found that , for me, on my Recuve and compound CB,the best is a Teflon Dry Lube film spray. It doesn't attract dust mites, hair balls or other unsavory stuff. Once the carrier evaporates, which is within 10 seconds, the barrel is slick as glass. I measured the barrl with a profilameter before and after applying. It last for 40+ shots before you need to re-apply.

Dnk 03-26-2008 05:26 PM

RE: String wax for rail
 
Darrel, one essential thing you are not doing with your method is lubricating the string fibers. I prefer Dalton 200 High-Speed Bow Wax and Conditioner. It really does not leave a gummy residue. It is the slickest string conditioner I've seen todate. It also has the right consistancy to penetrate the serving and soak into the fibers.

lyuv 03-27-2008 02:52 AM

RE: String wax for rail
 

ORIGINAL: Dnk

An important question, what bow do you have?
I built the CB from scratch, using a barnett recurve prod. The draw is 11"170#. The string is of B50, served with nylon.

The wax is VERY viscouse. Dont I lose much velocity due to it's resistance to the strings movement? ("non-erosive friction"?)

Also: a new and ugly question haunt me: Where the %^&* does the wax/lube go? Why do we need to re-wax every few shots? wax is one of the most stable materials. It doesn"t corode or evaporate. So???

DaGriz 03-27-2008 04:40 AM

RE: String wax for rail
 

ORIGINAL: Dnk

Darrel, one essential thing you are not doing with your method is lubricating the string fibers. I prefer Dalton 200 High-Speed Bow Wax and Conditioner. It really does not leave a gummy residue. It is the slickest string conditioner I've seen todate. It also has the right consistancy to penetrate the serving and soak into the fibers.
Don
I also wax my string quite frequently. I use a high quality string wax and rub it in with a piece of buckskin to heat it and blend it into the string. I use the dry flim Teflon on the barrel.

Dnk 03-27-2008 05:17 AM

RE: String wax for rail
 

ORIGINAL: lyuv


ORIGINAL: Dnk

An important question, what bow do you have?
I built the CB from scratch, using a barnett recurve prod. The draw is 11"170#. The string is of B50, served with nylon.

The wax is VERY viscouse. Dont I lose much velocity due to it's resistance to the strings movement? ("non-erosive friction"?)

Also: a new and ugly question haunt me: Where the %^&* does the wax/lube go? Why do we need to re-wax every few shots? wax is one of the most stable materials. It doesn"t corode or evaporate. So???
Temporarily you can use vegetable oil and bee's wax (50/50). You can order Dalton 200 string wax online. Use silicone spray on the rail. WaX the serving and the string and don't forget the string loops. Anything with wax builds up on the surface. You should wax the serving AFTER every use. Wax the whole string before putting the string on.
It would not be wise to use Break free or anything with a solvent in it. The amount of speed loss is not big at all. Use the Bohning and order something thinner. I recomment Dalton or BCY ML-6. The Excal wax is good too. But so is bee's wax and vegetable oil.

Krypt Keeper 03-31-2008 09:43 AM

RE: String wax for rail
 
I use Crisco (not the butter flavored either) lightly dab your finger with some and apply a thin layer on the deck.

I been using it for over 2yrs and have probably over 1,000 shots on my string and my server looks almost brand new..

907Alaska 03-31-2008 07:14 PM

RE: String wax for rail
 

ORIGINAL: Cossack

You don't need rail lube, the wax you put on the string is enough (sometimes too much).
Rail lubes attract dirt and grit which only wears the rail and the string. Parker specifically tells you not to
use it.
Excalibur tells ya the same thing..

Dnk 03-31-2008 07:42 PM

RE: String wax for rail
 
Hey Darrel, if you use Dalton 200 you won't have to try to slick up your rail. That stuff does not gum up and it is slicker than goose poop!

Diamond Rock 09-24-2009 06:49 AM

Also: a new and ugly question haunt me: Where the %^&* does the wax/lube go? Why do we need to re-wax every few shots? wax is one of the most stable materials. It doesn"t corode or evaporate. So???[/QUOTE]

Thats a good question, never thought about that but now that you mentioned it I really want to find out where it goes/what happens to it. All that wax I have put on my string and cables seems to disappear fast, but where does it go? Maybe the wax is designed to disappear so the manufacturers can sell more of it? I dont think so but you never know when it comes to making money of a product. If anyone can explain it or have a teory about it please share. First one to explain it gets a beer:party0005:

Michbowhunter 09-25-2009 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Cossack (Post 2655682)
You don't need rail lube, the wax you put on the string is enough (sometimes too much).
Rail lubes attract dirt and grit which only wears the rail and the string. Parker specifically tells you not to
use it.


I have a Parker Tornado, and the paperwork that I received with my bow says to wax the string and lube the barrel/rail after about every 5 shots. This of course is recommended--by Parker--for crossbows that shoot over 300fps. I use the Red Hot wax and lube kit, which is made by Parker, so I'm curious if they "specifically tell you not to use it," why do they make it, and recommend in their manuals to use it?

Quad82 09-25-2009 04:07 PM

I know where the Barnett lube goes! Been there, done that.

Actualy it ends up on the scope lens, your glasses, fingers and then your pants.

ACPOSSETIM 09-26-2009 07:05 PM

I think the wax may shoot off your string, think about it...the string is moving forward very fast and then stops...as physics teaches us objects in motion tend to stay in motion so the string stops and the wax keeps going. It may be a little bit at a time but eventually it would get rid of it. It could be an interesting test to wax your string, put a large piece of paper a few inches in front of your limbs, fire the bow and see what's on the paper? just a thought.


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