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Sako7STW 01-28-2008 06:10 PM

NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Hello all!

My name is Todd and I am a huntingholic from Wyoming. To further my sickness I am looking into joining the world of Crossbows. Never really was a big fan of bowhunting till my bro got into it. he shoots Vertical bow but My wife cant draw a bow and neither can my Dad after an accident he was in. So I am thinking of a crossbow with a cocking mechanism my work well for them 2 as well as easier for me. That way if they happen to draw the right tag and I dont they can use it as well.

So the main things I am looking at in a CB is light weight as most I have seen look like tanks and it seams no-one lists weights. The next is the mechanism as I explained above. Accuracy is of course extremely important, and, as i have read on here is not a fan favorite, I am a speed freak.

We will be hunting all NABG. So it has to have some power. Elk and Muleys being the prey of choice :D.

Not bragging so please dont take it as such, but, money is not a concern, i want the best of the best, so what ya recommend?

Sako7STW 01-28-2008 06:14 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Thought I should add, been looking at the Stryker but want to see some others out there. If ya have any links, pleasethrow them my way.

Wyvern Crossbow 01-28-2008 06:59 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
IMO...Money no object, best of the best, I would have to say the TenPoint Phantom. However, there are many fine bows out there. IMO, the fullsize Stryker, though a very cool piece of engineering and extreamly fast, is not a practical hunting bow. The Desert Stryker is a better bow in the woods.From there....LOTS of choices. It all depends on what you want to do, and how it feels in your hands.Youdont have to spend a ton of money to get a great bow. Excal makes a fine pieceof equipment and are very reasonably priced. PM me if you are interested, I have some deals on some Tenpoints, and also have a couple of custom camo Desert Strykers on the way...:)

Wyvern

Dnk 01-28-2008 07:03 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
And if you want something reasonable price-wise and something that less complex and that the same time fast, accuate, light weight and extremely reliable get an Exocet 200

Wyvern Crossbow 01-28-2008 07:07 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Or if you like a thumb hole stock, the Vortex is basicly the same bow...
Wyvern

Dnk 01-28-2008 07:41 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
I forgot to add because I was in a hurry. Wyvern was right on the money in his first sentence "Money no object, best of the best, I would have to say the TenPoint Phantom."
And welcome to the forum!
Edit:one of my dogs has decided to open a can of whoopass on me!
Wyvern, what is the difference between the Phantom and the Exomax in speed, price, and weight?

wabi 01-28-2008 08:21 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Light weight, accurate, fast...........
I'd have to say Excalibur.
Not the fastest out there today, but very accurate and fairly light weight.

Sako7STW 01-28-2008 08:23 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 


ORIGINAL: Dnk

And if you want something reasonable price-wise and something that less complex and that the same time fast, accuate, light weight and extremely reliable get an Exocet 200
Where can i find info on the Exocet 200? Who makes it?

wabi 01-28-2008 08:29 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
http://excaliburcrossbow.com/demo/m/content/article.php?content_id=1

Sako7STW 01-28-2008 08:44 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Guess I should have googled it before I wrote that. already looked at the tenPoints, Excals, and Strykers. Love the size of the Desert Stryker but it doesn,t have the cocking mech. From what i could tell niether does the Excals. Do like the look of the Ten Point bows as well and they have a cocker as well.


Dnk 01-28-2008 08:51 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Sako, do you need a cocking mechanism? Do you have access to a bow press? Do you want the fastest (as long as it holds together)?

Lower Forty Boy 01-29-2008 08:09 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
All regular model Ecalibers will accept a really neet little crank cocker I shoot a 225 lb. bow and can crank it back easily the crank assy will fit all Excal EXCEPT the new Y-25 with the wood stock Phoooey

awshucks 01-29-2008 08:30 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Better check this out before you pick which one you want to buy:

Wyoming
Crossbows legal during archery seasons; Must have 90 pound minimum draw weight, shoot a 16 inch bolt and cannot be cocked with a leverage-gaining device.
http://gf.state.wy.us
307-777-4600

I'm not sure if this law is still foolishly in effect or not. Most guys use rope cockers which cut effort in half and help center the string for accuracy. They collapse and fit into your pocket. Like alot of Americans, I obey the laws I believe in and ignore the stupid ones I don't believe in, lol. I'm not advising anyone anywhere to break the law. This one is particularly dumb because the terrain in Wy and the type of game hunted usually are going to be longer shots than are ethical for white tail, so the higher poundage bows like 200 and 225 could make a difference. Good Luck! Please let us know if this law has been changed?

KLV 01-30-2008 12:15 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
I'm new to the forum but have been lurking around and reading posts for some time now. Until now, I haven't posted before because I didn"t have anything new to add.

I have been hunting with a crossbow in Wyoming for 2 years and recently sold my Excalibur Exomax because of the idiotic law restricting leverage-gaining devices. The 225lb was hard to cock on a good day and when it was cold(hunting during rifle season) in November I either couldn't cock the bow in the field or about gave birth getting it cocked.

Fortunately, because they knew how much I love hunting with a crossbow, My family gave me a Great Lakes Impact for Christmas. At 165lbs It is much easier to cock, even when the weather is below zero and it seems just as accurate as my Exomax was and much easier on strings.

Despite the law,I thought about using a cocking rope in the field until the only other person I know who hunts with a crossbow was fined $254.00 for using one attached to his Ten Point in the field.

It's a stupid law designed to appease the verticle bow crowd and unfortunately it keeps people like my Dad, who has a bad rotator cuff and can't draw a compound, from hunting in the archery season because he isn't considered disabled under Wyoming law and can't get a permit to us a cocking aid.

I'll tell you now, you could probaly get away with a cocking rope in your pocket, but if your hunting with a cocking aid permantly attached to the bow like a Ten Point or the Stryker, be prepared for the inevitable citatation from your friendly G&F officer.

BigTiny 01-30-2008 08:53 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
I shoot an Excalibur Vixen. It has the lowest draw weight of any of the excals and has more than enough juice to take down anything on our continent. Plus, it's the only Excalibur to come in the attractive deerhide brown color!:)

Sako7STW 01-30-2008 10:19 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Yep, I am aware of the stupid, idiotic law. The good thing for my Dad is he does have the handicap permit so it is legal for him to use it. I talked to a G&F friend of mine about the law and he agrees it is dumb one and probably if there were more CB hunters in the state it could get changed. He also said that just because your bow has one on it doesn't make it illegal. If you read the law, it states that it cannot be cocked with device. Well if they don't actually witness you cocking it with the device then they cant fine you for it and if one does to make sure you fight it in court.

Dnk, to answer your question, yes I do need a cocking device. No I don't have a bow press, and no i don't need the fastest but I wouldn't complain about it! LOL


This actually leads me to another question, how long do you guys leave your bows cocked when in the field?

Sako7STW 01-30-2008 10:21 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Ohhh and by the way, WELCOME to the forum KLV!! What part of WY you in? I am in Evanston.

KLV 01-30-2008 10:45 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
I live in Sundance. Good to find more crossbow people in the state. I only know 4 others who shoot crossbows and , as I stated previously, only one other that actually hunts with one.

Sako7STW 01-30-2008 10:38 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 


ORIGINAL: Sako7STW


This actually leads me to another question, how long do you guys leave your bows cocked when in the field?

his actually leads me to another question, how long do you guys leave your bows cocked when in the field?

Anyone care to comment on this?????

Hotburn76 01-30-2008 10:50 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
I have had mine cocked on all day hunts many times. Even left it cocked over night a couple of times. The CB is just fine and the Chrony agreed.

Sako7STW 01-30-2008 11:23 PM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Right on, I was hoping that would be the case.

Wyvern Crossbow 01-31-2008 05:24 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
The only thing I personaly have noticed about crossbows that have been cocked for long periods is that the serving and string tend to compress. This can accelerate serving wear a bit but I have never seen a bow take a "set" and loose power (at least not so you would notice) I am sure there have been instances in either extream hot or cold where an occasional limb delaminates, but this is fairly rare...

Wyvern

907Alaska 03-01-2008 12:32 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
Excals have a cocking mech, I have one for my ExoMax.The Excals cocking mech fits onto the stock very fast setup, lightweight and removable. It has also been very durable.

Cossack 03-01-2008 06:41 AM

RE: NUB to the forum and crossbows.
 
I'm shooting a Terminator by Parker and a Vortex by Excal. Both great bows. But, will be taking a serious look at the new Parker Cyslone when it hits our store. Just 18" wide drawn, 6.5 lbs and 350m fps. Looks great. Package deal around $650. If it shoots as good as it looks, I WANT one!


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