RE: Excal question about their auto/manual safety
 

I'm 6'2'' with a 37" sleeve. The Thumbhole stock fits me very well. I'm thinking it's a marketing issue. Excal info states that the Vortex is "shorter" overall; presumably to accommodate the folks that have an issue with Excal's size. But to find out that it's only 1" shorter one has to go to the comparison chart. On the other hand, that one inch does make it easier to cock.

RE: Excal question about their auto/manual safety
 

That one inch shorter that we talk about with the thumb hole stock is in the stock, not in the power stroke. The distance youhave to pull back to cock the bow is the same as the regular stoick (Exomax/Equinox, & Exocet 200/Vortex) with comparable pouldage. If you shorten the power stroke, you lower the poundage of the bow. Now if you compare the max and the exocet, I think they are 0.5'' different in power stroke, same as the vortex and the equinox. The one inch shorter in the STOCK should not effect the cocking of the bow.

RE: Excal question about their auto/manual safety
 

Yea I am not real big 5'8" 150lbs. I was having trouble shouldering some of my guns after surgeries. My Horton is a thumbhole, so is my new TC Omega. This style of stock drastically helps out where I lack in form. I was shoulder our old TC I think its a green mnt rifle or something. Big heavy sucker about 9-10 lbs!!! I could only hold it up for a few seconds!!! I was shocked. I was thinking about shooting it some but told dad there was no way I could lug that around, let alone keep it steady enough to get a good shot on a deer. I even used my Omega for gun season here.

chris

RE: Excal question about their auto/manual safety
 

For me the real "turn off" was the location of the safety. It felt very awkward to have to take your thumb out of the thumb hole to reach the safety lever. As I said I don't own anything else with a thumb hole and there are a lot of people out there that love them. Just try it before you buy it IMHO.

Bob