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I know all of you guys have hit this link before but I was looking at his 110 yard groups using " Tungston " arrows and am truly amazed rest or not.
How much arrow drop would you get ( ball Park ) at those sort of distances. Must look like an incomingartillary..Makes me feel likehalf a man limiting myself to 30 yards and can't beleive you could really hunt at anywhere near that distance.
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I am happy shooting out to 35 yds. max to hunt. Thatman has to much free time on his hands.:D They sure do alot of testing and very good info.

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I plan on moving back some day just for fun. I figure I can turn my speed ring down all the way which will raise my POI and then just do some good hold over after that. I drop about ten inches from twenty to forty, found that out by accident yesterday. So I would bet at 100 yards it would be maybe three to four feet with just a guess.

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Long range target shooting w/ xbows is a bigger deal in Europe than the USA. I believe one of the reasons is the lack of being able to hunt w/ one in a lot of countries over there. Matthias72 does alot of testing and reports results on his web site that Planter linked.
There was a test done and results published in a back issue of HBM, at 100 yds, the mid range trajectory of an Emax is between 22-25 FEET! I lose arrows fast enough at closer hunting ranges, lol.

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when i used to shoot nfaa tournaments we had to shoot 80 yds. was a lot of fun. you had time to stand there and admire the shot while it was on the way. hehe.[8D]

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John, Matthias got his groups from three inches to an inch and a half using Boo strings! I also know someone that uses them in England to whack large rabbits a hundred yards.

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Well Boo how many threads do my stings have? 36 32 or 28?[8D]

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28, they are built for speed.

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I haven't shot in 5 days now. Mrs. has had more honey do's than i can keep up with. Then i have to do them in the morning as its too hot out there after noon!

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What is the matter with you folks, we have a hard enough time to convince people to pass XXXXbows in certain states==we tell them its ashort distance weapon and the you guys come out with this. Pm each other, do'nt let the whole world know what your doing- Please. Rich

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Personally I not only agree with the simple statement from RWK that this should not be a topic of discussion but I think as a crossbow shooter and hunter myself that taking 100 yard shots whether hunting or sporting is rediculous and inacurate at BEST including Olympic shooters. They used to say that indians could hit targets at 100 yards with thier hand made long bows. So what! Stand out there at 100 yards and let anyone shoot at you and eventually someone might stick you. But not before the sun sets a couple times. Who cares. The Irish men do this because they lost thier right to hunt. Now do you want the same thing?

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Concealing the truth is stupid. It's the same as lying. Lying is an excellent way to sew the seeds of mistrust and generate a virulent backlash against what you are trying to accomplish.

Besides, anyone who's ever read the slightest bit of history from midieval times through the Renaissance already knows the crossbow is fully capable of long distance shooting. This is NOT new information fellas. IT'S IN THE FREAKIN' HISTORY BOOKS! You gonna burn them because you're afraid of the truth??

All you are doing is showing your weakness.

The TRUTH is, some folks like shooting targets at long range with their crossbows. Some folks like shooting targets at long range with their conventional bows. In warfare, both bows and crossbows were used at extended distances. But when we talk about HUNTING, both bows and crossbows are short distance weapons. Compared to modern compounds, crossbows have very similar capabilities and limitations.

Now. Rather than lie about it, we've told the truth. Instead of a weakness, it's now a strength. We've pointed out yet another commonality between crossbows and compounds.

And best of all, it's all out in the open and we have nothing to hide. Now, don't we all feel better? ;)

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Don.. Put down the popcorn and back away slowly. I don't know anyone who uses this forum who would suggest that 110 yards is a realistic shot, but it is quite interesting that the shot can even be made.
Note: I tried a couple of eighty yard shots yesterday and even my 3D deer jumps the string. Geez, I can't even see 100 yards and I certainly wasn't baiting anyone..
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I agree with Arthur! Why conceal what is the truth, the compounds have long rang contest all them time! Why should we hide it when its for fun? As long as you are not shooting at deer that far, I should not feel that I have to be oppressed with what I can do! The fellow hunters that fall into the anti category will just have to deal with it!

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Hello, hello anyone listening! Folks there is some difference between shooting targets and hunting. No matter what the range in yds. OK, those Bow shooters have shot hundred yd. targets for years, doesn't make a wit what Bow you use. Those who can't tell target shooting from hunting are the very ones that need to be run out from all Bow shooting. They be the same type that does things they don't ever want others to know about![:o]

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I should have learned a long time ago to stay away from threads like this..[:@]

I love to read about long range shooting, I love to read about short range shooting, and everything in between. The problem arises when someone comes along and skims through a thread like this and all they see is that a crossbow can effectively shoot over 100 yards. They will not see a difference between a live target or a foam block, just the simple fact that the arrow can go 100+ yards and hit it's "target". The first reaction is "who cares what they think" then comes their opinion, that a bow is a short range weapon and a crossbow can shoot 100+ yards.. Only hunters really know the difference between a live target and an inanimate one, the rest of the world will only see it as alive.
Again, I am not against long range shooting, but you are sacrificing a small part of your claim that a crossbow is only a short range weapon. You have to step back and look at this thread from a persons perspective that have never hunted or handled a bow/crossbow.
The crossbow is a growing sport, the people that are trying to push it into the common area of bowhunting continuously use the the argument that there are no advantages to the crossbow over a compound, threads like this do not help their case.
Sometimes being discreet is a good choice, as an example my old work truck is fully capable of going 100 miles per hour, by not announcing thatdoes not make mea "liar", I am simply retaining information that is in my best interest to retain.
I say keep up the great work with the long range shooting, it tells me the capabilities of my bow without me having to lose the arrows myself. I am fortunate to live in a place where crossbows are considered equal to a compound, so the anti's who will use threads like this as ammunition wont be able to use it against me, but there are some people out there who are constantly swimming upstream trying to convince the world the crossbow is a short range shooting tool to gain ground in a fight to hunt with it.
You have to keep in mind that this isn't a private club we belong to, this is the world wide web, and also keep in mind that not everyone who comes along is going to readevery detail of the thread, just skim through it and come to the obvious conclusion that a crossbow is indeed a long range tool.
Shoot safe!
David

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Oh my! Heaven forbid these page skimmers stumble upon the National Archery Association's official records page on the internet... They would discover the fact that there is crossbow competition under the auspices of the NAA where they regularly compete at distances out to 90 meters - about a fuzz-and-a-half more than 98 yards. Shocking that they could be so indiscrete as to post this info for ALL to see! :eek:

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I'm far from an expert... BUT in the groups shown it looks like the bolts are going straight into the target. Shouldn't they be entering at somewhat of a downward angle at that distance.
Plus, isn't that a lot of penetration at that distance?
Hope some of you guys do some long range tests and see what the entry angle is.

xbowbarry

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I would suspect the difference is that this is a hunting forum, not the NAA.
"Huntingnet.com, the ultimate hunting community" Says so right on the first page.;)

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Quite witty there, Pydpiper.

Point is, there is plenty of information out there, only a Google search away. For you few guys to want to sit here and avoid it, ignore it, or try to falsely deny it is totally absurd, foolish and blatantly disengenuous. It's not going to go away just because it's 'inconvenient' for your narrow minded view of the crossbow issue. You're going to have to deal with it eventually, whether you like it or not.

It's part of the history and culture of the weapon! If you love crossbows, you should embrace ALL of it, not just the little bits and pieces that fit so easily into that little niche you guys are wanting to fill.

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I just can't figure out if you are calling my views narrow or you are just painting with a wide brush. If that it aimed at me then you may want to go back and re-read my post and try to let the part about me enjoying the art of long distance shooting sink in. Again, my post was about a casual readers point of view, not mine.
Being able to step back and look at this from a different perspective is fairly important to our sport and how we present it.
It wasn't my intention to go to battle with anyone over how the context of this thread can be manipulated, but the last few posts sure do prove my point.

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This old horse keeps rising from the grave to get beat to death over and over. So far, it's been on Excal and At several pages each. The info came from an Italian site. They can't hunt much over there. It's really two different topics, target shooting and hunting. The anti crowd does not deal in facts and figures, but rather emotional rants, usually prefaced w/ "My brother-in-laws neighbor";"A guy at our club"; yada yada. Future users looking for info are not going to be misled, 40 yds and under is everywhere, and most prefer 40 feet.

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whats new guys?

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I hadn't realized this was such an old topic since this is the only crossbow forum I take much notice of and this is the first time I've seen it. Sure has been an informative discussion though.

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Relax Arthur and David.. I really can see both of your views, but as long as religion and politics are main forum topics pretty much everything is fair game.
This is a crossbow forum and the thread was about crossbows. It's not like we have subvenues for every possible aspect and my initial post made it clear that I WAS not entertaining 110 yard shots but if I want to see unethical shots with a vert bow all I have to do is turn on the idiot box and watch those guys fling 50 yard arrows.
More inportantly, where do I find out about "BOO" strings?

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Boo is here, DNK is BOO.
He will answer anything you need to know about strings.. :D

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Dnk,aka Boo told me to watch the mail...Cant wait then I can see what all the fuss is bout with these Slck Trick BH's is.........I plan on shooting 100 arrows right away with the new string also.

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Quite true, Planter. Your post was about shooting at TARGETS and had absolutely nothing to do with hunting. There is NO maximum ethical shooting limit for TARGET shooting.

I dunno... Maybe I'm wrong to expect the average person to have the intellectual capacity to be able to divine the difference between TARGET archery and HUNTING archery. Even I can do that and I'm certainly not a Mensa candidate. In a nutshell:

Target archery is seeing how far you can get from a target and still hit it. Bowhunting is the art of getting close enough that you can't miss.

It don't get no simpler than that! :)

What's really disappointing to me is how some folks feel we have to engage in subterfuge and deceit, to deny the one in order to advance the other. "Don't let the whole world know what you're doing." That just goes completely against my sense of rightness.

And I owe you an apology for hijacking your thread. I'm sorry.

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That was really well said Arthur! I totally agree with what you've said except the apology. I think your post puts a period on this thread as far as intellectual input goes, no appologies needed because that wasn't a hijack.
I think I'm out of popcorn! LOL! I hope I ran out just in time for this thread to die.
Maybe its just me but did anyone smell a troll?

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Another vote for "Well said, Arthur P"

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Horray fer Boo!:D:D:D[8D][:-][:o]:D