Scope Question
 

I might begetting a new scope, I just do not like reddots. I was thinking about the Horton 4x32 Mult-A-Range instead of the red dot. Any other Horton users have any advice on this or of any other scope that can be put on my Horton?


Edit: After doing more research, my Horton uses a 7/8" Weaver style base. Would I have to use the Horton base and then mount the other manufacturers scope on it?

Here is what I am considering:

Horton Multi-Range 4x32
Tenpoint Proview
Excalibur Vari-Zone

Any comments or would any of these not work with a Horton Explorer HD 150?


Thanks!

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Have a look at the LumiZone too, it gives you a lighted reticule on demand. Assuming you have a Weaver base, you will need 1'' rings for the others.

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Thanks for the suggestion Cossack, I'd definitely want the Lumizone over the Varizone.

While I like the Tenpoint Proview because of the crosshairs and the illumination I am worried I will not be able to sight it to my crossbow since it states it is calibrated for crossbows around 300 fps and mine is 270 fps.

I guess it's been narrowed down to the Horton Multi-Range 4x32 and the Lumizone. Anyone have any opinions on either?

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I had the Horton scope on my super max!75 and it was OK at best. It was a little off at the thirty and forty yard lines. The twenty was set on the main hairs but the others are fixed and they do not adjust so I disliked being off a little on the 30 and 40 if I did not remember which way to hold over or under. When I first joined this site the Excal's guys turned me on to the Varizone and I put it on the super max and loved it. You can adjust it for any speed CB and it will be nuts on out to fifty, no more holding under or over. You can get the best prices on them at BHSS, they are alot cheaper then cabelas. I have the Lumizone on the Vortex and love it just as much. The ability to use the scope with out the power on is a big plus to me. I hated being in a tree and the batteries be dead on a red dot!

http://www.bowhunterssuperstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_151&products_id=320

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Thanks for the reply. I was hoping you would chime in Hotburn. From what you have said and what I have read about the LumiZone I think that is what I am going to get. The fact I can fine tune it to my 270 fps crossbow was the deciding factor. No more of this 8 - 12 yards depending on speed of crossbow for dots or crosshairs.

Now if I can ask one more question to make sure I order the right thing.

Do I need do get this Scope Mount Kit made by Hortonand then attach the LumiZone scope to it or would I need to get this one from Excalibur?

Thanks Again!

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One thing that will determine what you need is what do you currently have? If you already have a red dot on it then youhave a good chance of having theHorton weaver base on your bow already. You said in you above post you have a red dot so you maynot need to buy therail for yours.If the person you bought the CB off of bought it as a package deal with the red dot scope on it you may have what Horton sold as the red dot with a "integral" mount. It is basically like a red dot scope with that base you see in the link molded to it, saved Horton the cost of a set of rings. You need to take your CB and look at it. If it has a weaver style rail you will be able to see it plain as day, also you will be able to see the rings bolted to it and clamping it to your red dot. If you see no rings and no weaver rail then you need the Horton scope mount kit you posted, if you have the rail then you just need a set of one inch rings for a 7/8 weaver base. Here is the last tricky catch, but just want to cover all the bases for you. If you have a old Horton then there is a chance you may have a 3/8inch weaver base, my old super mag had one. If you have that then you will need to go to any sporting goods store and get some one inch rings for a 3/8 inch base, its the same ones for .22 cal rifles. The Excal kit will not work on a Horton CB since its mounting set up is different, buy this I mean only the bracket. But a set of Excal's one inch weaver base rings will work as long as you have the 7/8 inch weaver base on your CB. Sorry this was so long, but you need to look at your CB and see what it has on it. I don't want to tell you what to get and then you wait a week on the brown Santa and then are still unable to use it! That always sucks!!

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Excal mounts only fit Excals, get the Horton one. I've gone thru two of Hortons 4x xbow scopes, fogged up both times, V-zone or L-zone is the answer.

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Also, if you are still unsure, take some up close pics and we will try to help you out some more if we can.

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I looked on Horton's website and the Red Dot scope i have says its the integral mount.
I guess I will need to get the scope mounting kit.

Will the Horton 1" rings work or should I go ahead and get the Excalibur 1" rings?

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Thats not a good post Brett! Did I confuse you even more! LOL!!

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I made the above post because I was afraid I may have confused you more since you only had a blank post with a line! LOL!! But yes the Horton One inch rings will work just fine on the Excal. I was going into alot of detail cause I did not want to see you spend 33 bucks on a rail kit you may have not needed. Rings only cost 18 bucks and if you did not need the rail you would have wasted fifteen bucks. The 33 dollar kit is what you need and the Horton rings will work.

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Thanks, I appreciate you going into such detail. I messed up my previous post and since I couldnt figure out how to delete it I just erased it and put the _ until I could edit it. I also would have hated to spend money on the kitif I only needed the rings. I'll probably go ahead and order it later today. I've read so many good things about the LumiZone, cant wait to test it out.

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Don't spend alot of money on rings, cheapies from Mal-Wart work as well as any. "Integral Mount" means there are no rings on red dot. Like Jason said, if you have a weaver style mount under it, all you need are rings and scope. I'd consider pinning the dial-a-rage in one spot. Here's what a chunk of weaver style base looks like on a prototype range finder mount. It's upside down for what your mount will look like.

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Idecided to hold off until I can get home later to look. I'm still not sure whether I have the base under the scope or not. Once I find out I'll go ahead and order what I need. Thanks again for all the help.

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Here is a pic of a Horton integral mount scope. It is basically a Horton scope rail, rings, and scope all in one piece. Saves Horton a few bucks I guess. If you have this you need the package for 33 bucks. Notice there is no screws on the bottom side of this scope. It all in one, the slant on this one is the pivot point for the dial a range.

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This is a pic of a Horton regular red dot scope with built in rings. It will mount to any 7/8 weaver style base. It is a scope and rings built into one piece. Notice the the screws on the bottom of the scope for mounting to a weaver rail.

If you have this then you just need any set of one inch scope rings for a weaver base.

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Dang, Jason, you good!!

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I'm not good, it's about one quarter fact that I know of and like to share, one quarter I think is fact and try to share if I think its safe, and the other half is mostly just made up and you guys fall for it! LOL!!

I have been shooting them for a long time, I have plenty of Horton brochures and cabelas catalogs next to the crapper so I have been up to speed for the most part on them, its you Excal guys that I need to catch up with! LOL!!

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I appreciate all the help Hotburn. I did in fact have the integral site in your first picture. I went ahead and ordered the LumiZone scope and the Horton mounting kit.

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hey b in atl,

Just saw an Excal Varizone on ebay for $89, just in case.

xbowbarry