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buttermilkranch 07-31-2007 02:41 PM

bolt length questions
 
I have a PSE Rattler crossbow and comes with 17" bolts from the factory, and i broke all of them. I can't find ANY 17" bolts online except for ebay but im not shure of the quality of the bolts on ebay so i dont want to go that route. I called cs and hey said 20" bolts could be shot out of it but it would be a little weaker cause of the extra weight. My questions are....

Is there a site where I can buy some high quality carbon or aluminum 17" hunting bolts? If there arent any I will need to get the 20" bolts, can someone direct me to the lightest 20" bolts there are? Sorry for all the q's I want everything to go right on my first hunt with the crossbow. Thanks:)


Hotburn76 07-31-2007 02:53 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
If you go to Horton's web page you can get 17" aluminum from them. They are 325 grain with 100 grain tip so you need to make sure that it not below your recommended min arrow weight. Also if you buy some regular good carbons or aluminum in 20" you should be able to go to any shop and have them cut down for not much money.

buttermilkranch 07-31-2007 02:59 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
so they can cut down some bolts to make them the length you need?

buttermilkranch 07-31-2007 03:02 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
Also would those Horoton 17" bolts be a good choice for hunting?

Hotburn76 07-31-2007 03:38 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
The 17's will work fine, probably a little light on the KE side, but will do the trick for whitetail at least. They used to be a standard issue for Horton and I killed my first couple of deer with them. But like I said above you need to find out your CB's minimum arrow weight,to light of a arrow and you can have a dry fire effect.

Hotburn76 07-31-2007 03:41 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 

ORIGINAL: buttermilkranch

so they can cut down some bolts to make them the length you need?
Yes, any shop that makes arrows can do this with no problem. If your new at this try not to do alot of fishing, just get a proven CB arrow like a gold tip, Horton arrowor a 2219 and have it cut down. Don't try andexperiment on your first CB experience and then end up discouraged in the end.

buttermilkranch 07-31-2007 04:14 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
thanks for the awesome help! I will be hunting hogs with my CB. I will figure out my CB minnimum bolt weight, but I am most likely to get some 20" ones and get them cut down.

awshucks 07-31-2007 04:53 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 

ORIGINAL: buttermilkranch

thanks for the awesome help! I will be hunting hogs with my CB. I will figure out my CB minnimum bolt weight, but I am most likely to get some 20" ones and get them cut down.
For hunting hogs you might wanna try the 20" for more weight [k.e.]. Fixed blade rather than mechs. Most arrows have a weight per inch, I think my carbons are 8.1 gr per inch. Looks like w/ them you would be 24 gr heavier. there's a formula that's real accurate that says your fps changes 1 fps for every 5 gr arrow weight change. Looks to me you are only looking at 5 fps for 20" arrows if carbon, you get the point, so you can figure your own out if alum. Hogs are tougher than whitetail imho.

buttermilkranch 07-31-2007 05:12 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
so with 20" carbons im looking at 305 fps? that good enough for me! these are the broadheads I am going to be shooting

http://www.americanbroadhead.com/index.shtmlI am shooting the pro 100's

awshucks 07-31-2007 06:27 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
I'm guessing you are kinda new at xbows, so if not, please don't feel offended. The b-heads you posted the link to have some terrible test results in two places that I can think of. You can either do your own tests, read the tests others have posted, or try the tried and true stuff the guys here use. Most importantly, you have to see how what ever you choose works on yourbow/arrow combination. What works for one setup doesn't always hold true for the next guys. I never meant to imply you would get over 300 fps outta a Viper, just what arrow changes does to what velocity you are getting now. I think you added fps instead of subtracting. And, that only applies to MY carbons, they all are different.

Edited to add: I just googled your bow, it's 165# pull, but no info on the weight of those 17" arrows. You really need to know that soyou know the minimum weight you can go to, or like Hotburn said earlier, possible partial dry fire. Once you know the weight you can calculate what changes [heavier] will do to your ADVERTSED fps. Hope this helps ya some!!

buttermilkranch 07-31-2007 07:34 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
Yes I am very new to crossbows I dont even know why you call them x bows lol. Thanks for the Info on the broadheads I will return them for some different ones. I will call cs tommorow and see what the minimum weight is, but I think I will just buy some 20" as everyone seems to suggest. What are the downsides areto using 20" bolts as to 17" I guesse it would just be a little bit lower fps wich realy dosent matter as the extra mass impackting will make up for it. I am very confused on wich length to go with tho... If I can buy 17 inch would you recomend me going with those over the 20"? Thanks for helping a newb with questions

buttermilkranch 07-31-2007 07:40 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
I just cauht your pm awshucks. I guesse I will buy 20" now that they come with them.

KLS 08-01-2007 05:54 PM

RE: bolt length questions
 
whats your opinion of that rattler?

I was looking at getting one a while back and had a very hard time findingany info on it other than a picture and price tag so I passed,in fact your the first person I've run into that actually owns one


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