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I have a question that I cannot seem to find the answer. On the stock below where the Red Dot Scope is mounted, there is a dial. From what I have found so far, I think this is the Dial-A-Range® trajectory compensator. Is this only used if you do not have aRed Dot Scope or will I use this in conjunction with the Red Dot? If anyone could fill me in or point me to a website that explains it I would certainly appreciate it.

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I am not sure if it was ever intended to be used with a pin and peep sight setup. It is used for the single dot red dot scopes. I am not at home so I can not look at mine right now but I think it made to set you next to lowest setting on 20 yards and then your lowest setting would be for 10, your next to lowest for twenty and so on up to your farther ranges. But they are made mainly for the single dot red dot scopes. I never used mine out of fear of having it on wrong setting or setting it and the deer going farther then I thought and then being off. Some guys complain about accidentally turning them and not knowing it when they shoot and be off.

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Screwed that one up! LOL!!

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Thanks Hotburn, figured if someone knew you would. I will just leave it on 0 and never touch it again.

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Page eight of the Horton manual post 2000....

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Page nine.....

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The dial-a-range is for single aim point devices like a red dot or single xhair rifle scope. Each number is another 10 yds, or there abouts. If you use a peep and pin and the peep is mounted on the scope mount rail, it will work the same for that. If you use a multiple aim point like 3 dot red dot or Varizone, there's a way to pin that so it doesn't move accidently. Horton sells a multi line scope for more than a V-zone costs and they fog up bad so far on two I had here at various times. There was a good explanation on the xbow forum on AT on how to do it last year. I'd put it on "2" to start out w/ shoot one at 10 yds to make sure you are on the target, then go to 20. After you're good at 20, turn it to "3" and see where you're at at 30 yds. 30 to 35 would be my limit, but I'd have to check 40 in case of coyote or other varmit, lol. Good luck!!

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I shoot a Horton LegendHD175 with a Red Dot Sight. 0 to 20 yards the dial is set on 0, 20 to 30 yards I use 2, 30 to 40 yards it is set on 3.
Mike

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Wow, when you ask something you sure get answers around here. Anyone know if there is somewhere to download the Horton Manual foran Explorer crossbow? All I can find on their site is assembly instructions.

Upon further research I found several posts on AT that said when using the Horton cocking aid the rope would hit on the Dial-a-Range and turn the knob a click or two. If you didnt realize it then your aim would be way off. As awshucks alluded to, I found a post on AT that described how to disable it. I went ahead and disabled it and will just stick with my 3 Dot Scope.

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That's where it got the name "Dial-A-Rage" lol. You guys ain't seen nothing til you try a Vari-zone, 10-50 yds spot on, easy to shoot the mid odd numbers too, like 25 and 35. The dang dots are too close together on those gizmo's for me.

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Same thing here. The cocking strap moves my dial-a-range a click or two.
Always have to check where it's at after cocking. That could really screw up a kill shot if forgotten.

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Do you use the dial-a-range buckhunter? If not it is really easy to disable. If you do not already know and want to find out, just let me know.

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I used it for the inital sight in procedure for a 3 dot red dot. Where it says shoot an arrow atpos. 0,then 1, then 2. Then whichever arrow hit closest to the bullseye, leave it on that setting all the time and proceded to finish sighting in at 20,30,40 yards. So on mine the position is supposed to be left on #2 at all times. I may want to disable it after I resight with my carbon bolts. I just want to make sure everythings a ok first. But this is the way Horton says to do it.

chris
But yes I wouldn't mind disabling it at the #2 position in the near future.

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Some guys had problems with theres and some guys didn't. Some guys swear buy them. I never used it and will admit it always made me nervous even having it.

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I had read that in the manual as well. The method I used to disable it basically does not let you pin it to the position you want, it just drops it all the way down (to 0 I guess). There is another method to do that, but I wasnt real sure about it so I did not attempt it. My targets come today so I am going to try to sight my crossbow in tonight. My plan is to stand 10 yards away just to make sure I hit the target and see what kind of groupings I have. Once I get that doneI am going to back up to 20 yardsand sight it in with the big/top dot. Then hopefully 30 and 40 should fall into place.

I guess if this does not work for me Iwill renable the dial-a-range and follow the directions as you stated. I just didnt want to have to remember to always adjust the dial-a-range after I cock the bow. If I getit sighted intonight I'll let you know what happens.

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If you pin the dial-a rage in one position, it doesn't matter a whit which position it's in as long as you sight the red dot[s] in after doing so. Same as if you don't pin it. What ever number the dial is on is immaterial as long as it stays there and you sight in after selecting any position. it's just an elevation adjustment designed for single aim point sights, and becomes redundant w/ red dots or scopes, both of which have their own elevation adjustments.

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Well I had toreenable the dial-a-range. I couldn't even come close to getting the crossbow sighted at 10 yards with it disabled.I ended up dialing it to 2 and sighted it in there. I was getting my groupings within a 2" circle when it got to dark to back up to 20 yards. I'll finish up tomorrow evening. The good news is that with my Horton EZ Loader Cocking Rope I never came close to hitting the dial-a-range so I'll probably just leave it be.

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The problem I had was that I didnt pin the scope at the "2" position (I took out the back stob inside the scope making it default to the "0" position I guess). I read a post on how to pin it but it called for drilling a hole in your scope or something. I did not want to attempt it.Even with the windage dial cranked all the way up I was about 8 inches off center. As soon as I enabled it again and cranked it to "2" I was within a 2" circle in a few adjustments.

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So it's basically like this (i think) lol....

If you are using the Horton Hunter 3 dot red dot scope. There is not enough adjustment available in the scope itself to get youwhere you need to be, without using the dial-a-range.Thats probably because that's how the scopes are designed. Being they are "pre-sighted" for the 30 and 40 yard dot. Probably the same with other brands of the 3 dot versions out there. So it's going to depend on what kind of scope you are using, whether you have to use the dial-a-rage (that's funny).

So, the design has it's good points and bad points.

But I agree with awshucks. In theoryit shouldn't matter. But it does if you are using the Horton 3 dot scope or similiar types. (Because of the scope designitself) With other types of scopes youwouldn't have to neccessarily use it for the initial sight in procedure. Like on a better scope. LMAO
The triple dot seemspretty goodfor up to 30-35 yrds. which is fine for hunting. But I will more than likely up grade to something else next year.Simply for better reliability, design and easier to sight and use.



Just some thoughts...

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Qoute:b_in_atl: Anyone know if there is somewhere to download the Horton Manual foran Explorer crossbow? All I can find on their site is assembly instructions.
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if you want to save a copy...simply go to the file tab at the upper left corner of page and go down and click onsave as' then select a destination to put it in and click ok' to save it.

http://crossbow.com/uploads/downloads/operations_manual2000.pdf

if someone sent you this already then disregard it, if not i hope this helps.

Willy:)

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i use a single dot tru glow scope and i set my arrow gun up at 20 yrds with the dial on 0. i am good at 0 to 20 yards at this setting. if i turn my compensator dial to 1 i hit my thirty, 2 i hit my forty and so on. i love this feature. i just know sometimes in the woods though when that big buck walks in at 32 yrds and i forget to compensate and shoot low, then i will hate the thing. lol

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"i set my arrow gun up at 20 yrds"

No you didn't. You set a crossbow up.

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dial-range gismo is pain and worry you should not have..
almost everytime i pull my bowstring back, it moves it to 2..

i have vari-zone scope not red dot,yet i like to use only 1 crosshair,the 20 yd one...
i am trying to like using the yard hairs ,not 1 and dial-range...

but it does move and could cost you a miss or bad hit with arrow.......