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GR8atta2d 05-18-2007 12:27 PM

Bowtech
 
Anyone shot the new crossbow out by Bowtech? Any reviews?

Dnk 05-18-2007 12:31 PM

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GR8atta2d 05-18-2007 12:34 PM

RE: Bowtech
 
Rut roo..when I see the popcorn..I know I'm in trouble. What's up??

GR8atta2d 05-18-2007 12:43 PM

RE: Bowtech
 
Okay I didn't know the Name of the bow..I found it on the bottom of page 2..so Mods can delete this. Looks like it may need some refurbishments..I just thought Great compound must be a cool X-bow.

Back to your regularly scheduled ..whatever!

Pydpiper 05-18-2007 12:43 PM

RE: Bowtech
 
There are a few people out there, I have seen the odd thread, but most start with someone saying how happy they are with it, then it is usually interrupted by someone else saying theirs exploded.
My opinion is not one of experience, but I would wait until they stabilize the thing first.
It shoots fast, accurite and has the potential to severely wound the guy holding it.
It's a Bowtech, so I can only assume the guys that are having good luck with it are very happy people.


Dnk 05-18-2007 01:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d

Rut roo..when I see the popcorn..I know I'm in trouble. What's up??
This subject seems to draw in some emotional debate as well as some posters that seem more like flys than human. No you aren't in trouble, I am just waiting for the entertainment to arrive. LOL!

10ptCrossbow 05-18-2007 01:49 PM

RE: Bowtech
 
Do your homework. There are some other high performance bows out there that may suit you as well. Made by crossbow companies.

awshucks 05-18-2007 04:39 PM

RE: Bowtech
 

ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow

Do your homework. There are some other high performance bows out there that may suit you as well. Made by crossbow companies.
LOL, w/ proven track records, customer service and warranty work.

shewe 05-18-2007 08:59 PM

RE: Bowtech
 
i'd stick with a known commodity.[8D]

Ratus 05-22-2007 07:59 PM

RE: Bowtech
 

ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow

Do your homework. There are some other high performance bows out there that may suit you as well. Made by crossbow companies.
Apparently you didn't do your homework (or you just forgot to hand it in on time). ;)

From what I've been told and from what I read on their web site, the Stryker crossbow is produced by Stryker Manufacturing anddistributed solely by Bowtech. If you look at the contact page the two companies don't share the same address.

And BTW, it really doesn't look too good when the Sales Manager from one of theircompetitors talks bad about other manufacturers products. Just somethingyou may want to keep in the back of your mind while your typing on here and other forums.;):D

ranger56528 05-22-2007 08:09 PM

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Dnk 05-22-2007 09:25 PM

RE: Bowtech
 

ORIGINAL: Ratus


ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow

Do your homework. There are some other high performance bows out there that may suit you as well. Made by crossbow companies.
Apparently you didn't do your homework (or you just forgot to hand it in on time). ;)

From what I've been told and from what I read on their web site, the Stryker crossbow is produced by Stryker Manufacturing anddistributed solely by Bowtech. If you look at the contact page the two companies don't share the same address.

And BTW, it really doesn't look too good when the Sales Manager from one of theircompetitors talks bad about other manufacturers products. Just somethingyou may want to keep in the back of your mind while your typing on here and other forums.;):D
I see nothing whatsoever that Randy said that was bad! Nothing! You read what you wanted. If it gets you going to have someone with proven integrity suggest that you consider a crossbow made by a crossbow manufacturer then you have some basic issues that need to be addressed. How in the world can you take offence at this???
What does the lack of the same address show? Nothing accept that maybe they are different companies owned by the same investors that do NOT want to share liablilities.
Randy you are a good man, you can stand beside me any time. I would be honoured! When a man has ain intellegent comment and has a history of helping others he gets my respect! Randy, I will defend you to the end and stand by your side. You should have more respect than what was given earlier. You have helped people in need out of conscience not for business reasons. You have always been a gentleman and have not deviated in your post.
I would rather buy a crossbow made my a crossbow company. They have supported my sport for longer and will get my hard earned dollars first! Excalibur said it well about themselves and this statement applies to Tenpoint as well. [font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]At Excalibur, we aren't big business cashing in on crossbow hunting, we're crossbow hunters who build crossbows.

Don
Popcorn anyone?

awshucks 05-23-2007 03:49 PM

RE: Bowtech
 

ORIGINAL: Dnk


ORIGINAL: Ratus


ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow

Do your homework. There are some other high performance bows out there that may suit you as well. Made by crossbow companies.
Apparently you didn't do your homework (or you just forgot to hand it in on time). ;)

From what I've been told and from what I read on their web site, the Stryker crossbow is produced by Stryker Manufacturing anddistributed solely by Bowtech. If you look at the contact page the two companies don't share the same address.

And BTW, it really doesn't look too good when the Sales Manager from one of theircompetitors talks bad about other manufacturers products. Just somethingyou may want to keep in the back of your mind while your typing on here and other forums.;):D
I see nothing whatsoever that Randy said that was bad! Nothing! You read what you wanted. If it gets you going to have someone with proven integrity suggest that you consider a crossbow made by a crossbow manufacturer then you have some basic issues that need to be addressed. How in the world can you take offence at this???
What does the lack of the same address show? Nothing accept that maybe they are different companies owned by the same investors that do NOT want to share liablilities.
Randy you are a good man, you can stand beside me any time. I would be honoured! When a man has ain intellegent comment and has a history of helping others he gets my respect! Randy, I will defend you to the end and stand by your side. You should have more respect than what was given earlier. You have helped people in need out of conscience not for business reasons. You have always been a gentleman and have not deviated in your post.
I would rather buy a crossbow made my a crossbow company. They have supported my sport for longer and will get my hard earned dollars first! Excalibur said it well about themselves and this statement applies to Tenpoint as well. [font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]At Excalibur, we aren't big business cashing in on crossbow hunting, we're crossbow hunters who build crossbows.

Don
Popcorn anyone?
I've done my homework and now is a good time to hand it in. Stryker and Bowtech are one in the same regardless of addresses. The magical/mystical 400 fps out of a crossbow was broken as early as the year 2000. Although I'm sure there are other xbow mfgrs out there that could be producing bows w/ that many UNNEEDED fps, the 2000 model I'm referring to is the Excal Paradox, a joint effort w/ Bear archery whose stateside model was called the Maxpoint. Danny Miller, the US warranty rep for Excal was deeply involved in the design work for those bows and has experience w/ breaking the 400 fps mark. None of the xbow mfgrs wanted to cash in on the "need for speed" such as Bowtech/Stryker has done. They look more at the big picture which is universal acceptance of the xbow as a viable hunting tool comparable w/ compound verticle bows, in other words, no great advantage speed or trajectory wise. There is no doubt some resentment from the established, respected, xbow mfgrs on the subject of the Stryker. Randy Wood, aka 10 pt, aka Crossbow does an excellant job of representing his employer, 10 pt and being truthful in his dealings and posts on various forums. Class dismissed??

ranger56528 05-23-2007 03:54 PM

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awshucks 05-23-2007 04:12 PM

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What's w/ the big blue letters?? My apologies to the forum, now I got popcorn coming out of my printer!![:@]

ranger56528 05-23-2007 04:21 PM

RE: Bowtech
 
I had to remove my Glasses...It must be a blue mood thingamajig....

Ratus 05-24-2007 04:36 AM

RE: Bowtech
 
I was moreso referring to his remarks on OTHER forums that why I had said "this and other forums".


Yeah I understand Stryker is a new crossbow manufacturer but so weren't the others at some point in time? What did Tenpoint, Horton, Excal, Barnett build before they built they're first crossbows?

Didn't people have to put they're faith in buying the first ones? Good questions huh? ;):D

10ptCrossbow 05-24-2007 07:35 AM

RE: Bowtech
 
Awshucks, DNK,
Thanks guys.

Ratus,
I have on more then one occasion told people to look at all the crossbows and find the one they like. I have on more then one occasion told people to look at a certain type of crossbow that was not a TenPoint. Do I think TenPoints are the best? Yes. Do I think TenPoint is the best fit for everyone, absolutley not.
While selling TenPoint crossbows is very important to me, having a stong crossbow industry is very important as well. I donot talk bad about the compitition. Each manufacturer out there does a good job at certain things. We each have found our own nitch. I will openly say that Barnett bows are struggling right now, but I also openly say I hope they get things figured out and get back in the game.
Styrker took a line on speed that the other crossbow companies did not think was good for the crossbow indusrty and where we want to go with it. I have not been shy about that. Stryker went for speed and they did a great job of getting that speed. Just not a direction TenPoint feels we need to go. As for Stryker being a seperate company... call the "Stryker" number and see who answers the phone. It doesn't make any difference to me, but they are on in the same.
As for what TenPoint made before crossbows, nothing. That is all we do. Crossbows. Same with Horton and Excalibur.

Thanks,
Randy Wood
National Sales Manager
TenPoint Crossbow Technologies

Doegirl75 05-25-2007 01:28 AM

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I'll tell what the biggest issue I have with the Stryker. It's not the fact that it can sling an arrow at 405fps. It's the idiotic advertising campaign Bowtech has going on at the Stryker website. Cock-Load-Squeeze-Game Over. Apparently you don't even have to aim the thing.:D Everybody let's just dress up like special forces combatants just to show how bad and manly our oversized, unwieldy monstrosity of an x-bow this stryker really is. It shoots 405fps, you know. That's all that matters.
Crossbows are just starting to gain acceptance. This paramilitary advertising campaign is counterproductive. My suggestion to Bowtech, change the advertising to a more legit focus on hunting and quit giving the Stryker "gun-like" attributes. O.K. officially off soap box.

Dnk 05-25-2007 09:31 AM

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Well done Doegirl!

Hotburn76 05-25-2007 07:13 PM

RE: Bowtech
 
What Doe girls said is right on track! Sometimes I have wondered if the Stryker is not a way for bowtech to make money on both ends. Sell a few CB's and also still help maintain the bad CB image. As she said, why would any CB maker use that kind of image for a product you want to gain acceptance? Is the Stryker a wolf in sheep clothes???? Either way they win right? They either have a head start on the long bow makers as one starting to make the switch, or they help preserv the CB discrimination and secure long bow sales?

Gimphunter 05-27-2007 05:39 PM

RE: Bowtech
 
I have one and can't tell you anything about it as I got it just a day before my shoulder surgery. I can tell you the company didn't win a happy customer with their extremely poor customer service in trying to right what should have been a very minor problem with my order. It'll all be great if it does what it appears to do. Not sure I buy the exploding rig claims. Not if it's second hand.

The workmanship on it appears to be top notch. We'll see after a few hundred arrows have been launched.

SwampCollie 06-06-2007 05:51 AM

RE: Bowtech
 


ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow

Awshucks, DNK,
Thanks guys.

Ratus,
I have on more then one occasion told people to look at all the crossbows and find the one they like. I have on more then one occasion told people to look at a certain type of crossbow that was not a TenPoint. Do I think TenPoints are the best? Yes. Do I think TenPoint is the best fit for everyone, absolutley not.
While selling TenPoint crossbows is very important to me, having a stong crossbow industry is very important as well. I do not talk bad about the compitition. Each manufacturer out there does a good job at certain things. We each have found our own nitch. I will openly say that Barnett bows are struggling right now, but I also openly say I hope they get things figured out and get back in the game.
Styrker took a line on speed that the other crossbow companies did not think was good for the crossbow indusrty and where we want to go with it. I have not been shy about that. Stryker went for speed and they did a great job of getting that speed. Just not a direction TenPoint feels we need to go. As for Stryker being a seperate company... call the "Stryker" number and see who answers the phone. It doesn't make any difference to me, but they are on in the same.
As for what TenPoint made before crossbows, nothing. That is all we do. Crossbows. Same with Horton and Excalibur.

Thanks,
Randy Wood
National Sales Manager
TenPoint Crossbow Technologies
I'm impressed.

I just moved back to VA after a 6 year stint in SC. In SC (especially where I lived in the Lowcountry), you bow hunt because you like to bow hunt. Rifle season opens on August 15th, so there is no special bow season in my part of the state. There are a few WMAs that are archery only opportunties, but that aside, you can gun hunt the whole season. Crossbows were legal, as they were part of firearms season.

When I just came back to VA, I learned that two years prior they had made crossbows legal during the archery season. Most of my archery buddies were mad as wet hens about it. Me personally, I don't really care...whatever gets people to hunt is a good thing, not to mention we have too many deer anyway. Lots of folks seem to think that crossbows are a "poachers weapon", and are capable of killing deer like a silent wind out to 100 yards. Since I work in the hunting/archery industry for a living (and have since studied the matter intensely now that I have to sell crossbows), I have learned this is not the case. As I have read on this forum, crossbows are good out to about 35 yards max. As I tell people in the shop, its about like #1 buckshot...30-35 yards and thats IT!

I honestly think that the whole reason VA bought into allowing crossbows during the early archery season is because of folks like you Randy, and the attitude your companies have. If your industry took the stance that Stryker has, I really don't think that crossbows would have become legal for use in VA. We are a state that still doesn't allow hunting on Sunday, and we still have blind laws and other blue laws left over from LONG LONG ago. We don't change our ways much. While there is certainly not as steep a learning curve with crossbows as there is with vertical archery (for lack of a better term), the fact that you can do more with a vertical bow with practice really evens out the playing field, espeically in the eyes of the law makers who saw fit to allow crossbows.

I really admire the stance y'all have taken. And I can totally see and understand why the Stryker is causing an uproar. I have shot the thing, and its down right impressive, but the fact that they are tooting that you can easily shoot and kill at 60 yards with it may very well end up being the undoing. Hopefully not.

I had always wondered why crossbow companies had not simply taken a compound bow with a long powerstroke, given it 150 lb limbs and attached it to a gun stock. It seems you likely have to technology to make an arrow go upwards of 500fps...if not closer to the sound barrier (and probably in 5 years you'll see the ability if its not there already). I suppose this is the answer. And I think its FANTASTIC insight on your part. You guys are much better off as an industry to restrict the speeds and abilities to that of a recurve vertical bow so that states will start allowing them during archery seasons. Lets face it, you cannot compete with a firearm, and if a regular bow cannot compete with you...then you are left without a season to hunt in, and subsequently, no customers to sell to. I'm just truely, honestly, impressed.

awshucks 06-06-2007 08:31 AM

RE: Bowtech
 
SwampCollie: Good post!!

Dnk 06-06-2007 10:33 AM

RE: Bowtech
 
Swampcollie, great post and a great attitude!


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