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statjunk 02-23-2007 11:11 AM

Cross Bow Help
 
Hey guys,

My buddies dad has some problems with his spine and can no longer pull back a bow. He just recieved his walking papers to hunt with a bow and is looking for someone that knows what the best out there is. He wouldn't want a used one because he is well to do so I don't feel that money is an object.

Things he would need in a crossbow are:

1) Easy system to load the bow

2) Light - I think he would struggle to hold it up for long because of his back.

3) Realiable

4) Accurate

Thanks

Tom

Buster T 02-23-2007 12:40 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 
go the the crossbow forum or

www.excaliburbows.com

people here HATE crossbow hunters in regular archery season and you'll likely get no help from anyone on the bowhunting forum. I know, such a good bunch of fellow bowhunters, huh ?

Dnk 02-23-2007 01:13 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 

ORIGINAL: Buster T

go the the crossbow forum or

www.excaliburbows.com

people here HATE crossbow hunters in regular archery season and you'll likely get no help from anyone on the bowhunting forum. I know, such a good bunch of fellow bowhunters, huh ?
Buster, I asume it is unintentional but I think you have it wrong that this forum hates crossbows. All of us here shoot and or hunt with them. There is a large number of us there that are Excal owners.
Statjunk, get your dad to check out the Vixen. It is easy to cock with a rope cocker and is one of the lightest bows out there. It has sufficient power for any deer or moose and is accurate enough to compete with. It has it all - power speed and accuracy.
Statjunk, check all of our threads, we are mostly hunters here. In the other sections, I've never been disrespected, nor was there ever a hint of that crap. The moderators will not tollerate such behaviour.

GrumpyTom 02-23-2007 01:22 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 
DNK, I think this thread might have been moved itno this forum from the regular archery forum by what he said.

Statjunk I would also recoment the 175LB models from Excalibr. If money is not a problem and if he wants it, I would also recomend that he have an Accu-draw installed in the stock, but that will add some weight, but all in the back end and not making it more front heavy. A fella named Dan Miller had arranged to have them installed for quite a few people on Excalibur. Even if it is there, it does not have to be used, you can still load it by hand or with the string cocker.

Good luck.

Dnk 02-23-2007 01:34 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 
Yup, your right, now that I read it all! Still I have never been diss'd by anyone in the other forums. Only acception is that I've never been in the Trad section.

smokepolehall 02-23-2007 01:37 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 
statjunk, welcome to the CB forum. The recurve CB's are lighter than the Compound version. Dan Miller can take auto cranks and attach them to the stock fer easy string cocking.

Buster T 02-23-2007 02:04 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 
yeah it was moved - and yes, the Bowhunting forum hates crossbows in regular season and don't consider them archery at all.


My Dad just went to an Excalibur Exomag- unbelievable the accuracy and power of that bow. He scoped it with an Excalibur scope - that sucker will shoot 50 yards and deadly accurate. Perfect for a 72 year old man !

Rebel Hog 02-23-2007 03:11 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 

ORIGINAL: statjunk

Hey guys,

My buddies dad has some problems with his spine and can no longer pull back a bow. He just recieved his walking papers to hunt with a bow and is looking for someone that knows what the best out there is. He wouldn't want a used one because he is well to do so I don't feel that money is an object.

Things he would need in a crossbow are:

1) Easy system to load the bow

2) Light - I think he would struggle to hold it up for long because of his back.

3) Realiable

4) Accurate

Thanks

Tom





Hotburn76 02-23-2007 04:21 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 
This may look familiar to some, and it is. I noticed That alot of us regulars are giving less and less info for new people when they have the basic run of the mill questions, like which CB or CB advice. So I made a repeat post folder in my computer so that I can just copy and paste and give a full effort thread when people have basic questions. I also did this cause I find myself not answering post because to me they are getting old, but to the poster I know it is new and much needed info. So with that said, here is my two bits!

One of the first things that people try to look for is a quite CB. That is something you will not find in any CB, FACT! Do a search on this forum for ear plugs, you find that alot of people that have been using CB's for a while recommend them when new people start talking about trying to quite their CB. My friend, it is not going to happen. A CB has alot of energy in those small limbs so that in it's self will make more sound then a normal long bow. Then you have the stock, in my opinion the stock is like a set of speakers and mic for the loud powerful limbs. If you ever find a CB that is half as quite as a regular bow, you let us know cause we would all like to know.

Second thing that gets asked about is the cranks, I can offer no help. I think all the CB makers offer some type of crank. Some are permanently mounted some slip on and such. A few offer a rope style cocker that have a pulley affect to greatly reduce pull weight and I think Excal has that and a few guys on here really like it. I say I can be of no help because I have never used one so my advise only comes from what I have read on here.

For a CB recommendation I can recommend my CB of choice which is Horton. You made a reference to price, I have realized in the last year that this is a statement you need to keep in mind when buying a Horton. Horton has evolved into a huge CB maker that has been on the seen from the get go since Ohio and Arkansas first opened up the hunting world to CB hunting. Horton and Barnett were first on base to harvest the new market and in time that has proved to be a draw back. Horton has been sucked into the makem cheap WAL-MART game! I have always had a Horton, Dad gave me my first when I was sixteen I think and I used that bow for fourteen years and it is still busting knocks if you aim for the same spot twice. My new CB which was bought last year is the Horton Supermax, another fine Horton product that will keep me happy and anyone else who lays hands on one. If you choose the Horton line you need to look for one thing in my opinion. It must have a machined aluminum barrel. The ones that they make for wal-mart and the other lower CB's they offer are a composite barrel of some sort. I think they are OK CB's but from what others say they lack in quality. But I also wonder when some only has a few bucks and make a last minute purchase from wal-mart with no knowledge is set to fail from the beginning IMO. So in short get one of the higher end ones and you will be set, cut cost and you could be taking a risk.

Lastly I will offer support for the Excal crowd. It's re-curve design is what lures me into it's seduction as time goes on. There is plenty of good guys on here that can offer hard facts about there products that I can say you can trust, some of them should post, and the crazy Canadian will chime in soon. Robert, Dan and Mike are all familiar with them so they all can help you on this. I have never shot an Excal but them boys sure seem happy. They do not sell them and they have all killed deer with them so I think they are good sources. One thing I can add about the Excal that gets me is the independence you get with one. The re-curve design lets you do all your own work without a bow press. If you buy a wheel bow you will be at the mercy of a shop, which I deal with and dislike.

As for optics I like the Excal's custom adjustable speed scope called the V-ZONE. I have it on my Horton and love it. It has a adjustable speed ring on it that can be set to your CB's speed and then your 20, 30 and forty will be dead on. Some guys say the low light conditions are not the best with these, but I am happy with it. Some guys like a Red dot, but after switching to a scope I am much more happy. To each his own for a sight. Sorry so long, but thats my scoop and good luck! Keep us posted!

shewe 02-23-2007 08:20 PM

RE: Cross Bow Help
 
all good advice so far....my advice is to shoot as many of them as you can before making your decision. my priorities were trigger, ease of maintenance, price, consumer service, and the bow just had to feel right. settled on the exocet and had no regrets. i love it.:D


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